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Laois / Maggie Walsh R.I.P.
« on: March 28, 2017, 07:47:20 PM »
I was shocked to hear this news today.

Only barely remember him hurling senior for Laois, and I'd be lying if I said I remember him as an outstanding hurler- I don't. I'd also be lying if I said that I knew the man personally.
But I saw him. I saw him stroll into O' Moore Park, smiling, always smiling. I saw the warm way in which men I respect greeted him.
I saw the esteem in which he was everyone......and always.
I saw him hurl away with Ballinakill until he physically couldn't. That's some club man. Ballinakill have some raft of ex county players at present who appear to be serious clubmen. I'd imagine there is a connection. Monkey see, monkey do.

He was one of those who only needed one name. I never heard anybody refer to him as anything other than Maggie, maybe Maggie Welsh! I didn't know a person called Michael/Mick Walsh existed until I was about 16!

It's easy said and too commonly stated after a death, but this man really was loved. Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever uttered as much as a slightly negative comment about the man in my presence.

It's also worth noting that I saw the man out the O' Moore Park turf congratulating players and clubmen after at least 4 breakthrough senior final wins (Clonad, Castletown, Rathdowney Errill & Clough Ballacolla)- congratulations that were very welcomed considering the stature of the man offering them.

R.I.P. to a real Laois hero.
I didn't know you Maggie, but may heaven's bed rest softly on your soul.

Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
« on: March 26, 2017, 10:30:53 PM »
To be as pedantic as you- I never said it was simple.
But it isn't over complicated either. It does require hard work. Non stop and persistent hard work over many years. That's the secret. Any break of 2-3 years in the middle of this and you are back to square one.

Some of the people who end up over development squads is embarrassing at times. They are not capable of doing the job asked of them.
That is everyone's fault- mine, Don's, even yours!

Now, can you stop hesitating and at least suggest some of these improvements you had in mind.

This is quickly going down the road of your "Cheddar Out" phase- plenty of noise about what's wrong but almost having to be begged to suggest some ideas of your own.

You said you wanted discussion and then you come out with this stuff;

No one has ever stated that, and why would they its a ridiculous comment!
You make it sound so simple Keyser! If it was as straightforward as that we'd be all Ireland champions long ago!! At least were having a conversation though and not just throwing jibes!  The reason i hesitate to explain a "masterplan" or "vision" etc here is because it IS too complicated to put in a simple post on a forum as you have attempted above...... and i could go on. 
Sorry to be depressing but we cant bury our heads in the sand either and say next year will be different. It has to be a long term approach.

You are saying nothing that isn't being done or tried.

Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
« on: March 26, 2017, 09:40:54 PM »
What "masterplan" is needed?
There is no such thing as a style of hurling that can be transferred all the way from U6 to Senior or even U12 to Senior.

From 6-12 all you can do is make sure the basics become natural, that fundamental movement is well covered, and that hurling is an attractive proposition- i.e. fun. That is all you can do.

From 12-14 all you can do is work sharpening the basics and adding the more complex skills. Introducing some tactical awareness at this age.

From 14-18 the basics should be natural, and the more complex skills should be made natural at this stage. More complex S&C/Fundamental Movement is introduced and a much higher level of tactical awareness/game management becomes the norm. Again, making hurling an attractive proposition is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT at this age.

We are very unlikely to ever be in a position to put a decent amount of work into an U21 team. Strong U21s will already be seniors, and will simply be unavailable to U21 managements.

I don't see how it is any more complicated than that?
Getting clubs into primary schools. Getting the same kids to go to the clubs. Getting development squads together at weekends and school holidays. What else can be done in terms of structures?

Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
« on: March 26, 2017, 03:30:08 PM »
Don and Keyser, 2 of the finest keyboard warriors ive ever seen! When are ye going to understand people can have different opinions than ye?!
And "extremely competitive" is an exaggeration! And im not going to stay repeating myself over Cheddar.
I shared an opinion. Discuss it or dont i couldnt care less.

An opinion is what I'm offering.
I would stand over saying that Laois were extremely competitive in 1B in 2014 & 2015?

2014- Laois beat Antrim and Offaly. Lost to Cork, Wexford and Limerick by 7, 6 & 4 points respectively.
Lost a quarter final to Clare (defending All Ireland Champions) by 4.

2015- Laois beat Antrim. Lost to Offaly, Waterford, Wexford and Limerick by 4, 18, 12 & 6 points respectively.
Beat Antrim comfortably in a relegation playoff.
So two heavy defeats in 2 years. The Wexford game for the record was 0-25 to 5-22 (so not totally outclassed).
Yes i'll say that is extremely competitive, particularly in 2014.
I'm not sure what you would be expecting as a Laois supporter. But sure I suppose we can always drop back and be extremely competitive in Division 2.
So, the progress you were looking for 12 months ago now involves stepping back into Division 2? Interesting definition of progress!

Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
« on: March 26, 2017, 01:16:56 PM »
Come on Don no need for it.

I disagree.
Considering that this poster was more or less telling us that Cheddar was holding us back.
Considering that Cheddar brought us back to Division 1 and kept us there for 3 years, being extremely competitive for 2 of those 3 years.

Now, less than 12 months later, he proposes that we drop down voluntarily to Division 2.
On top of this, he suggests that Cheddar might come back in and oversee hurling in the county.

I'd rather play "negatively" and be competitive in Division 1B than yo-yo up and down between 2A and 1B forever more.

Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
« on: March 26, 2017, 09:04:47 AM »
At this stage im beginning to think we should drop to division 2 and Christy Ring and just rebuild, from the bottom up. I wouldn't be up for just dropping down without a proper plan to rebuild though. We need to get in a good hurling director, maybe Critchley, or Cheddar, and get the underage coaching and structures up to scratch and go from there. No one wants to hear that and i dont want to be saying it but we are well behind in every department. We are 10 years behind other counties in our practices, coaching standards and schools coaching, and weve lost an awful lot of good experienced players over the last 2/3 years and its hurt us. And lets face it we weren't world beaters 2/3 years ago either. Conceding 6-31 to Limerick is just staggering! And psychologically demoralising.
Dont jump down my throat here lads, explain if you think theres a better way or how this current bunch are going to change dramatically over the next few years staying where they are?

We were very competitive in the league 2/3 years ago.
Are you sure Cheddar would be up to the job?

Laois / Re: Allianz Football League 2017 - Division 3
« on: March 21, 2017, 11:01:46 PM »
Reading some of the posts above, you would think that the manager has nothing at all to do with the performances on the field.

That is what has irked me.

Laois / Re: Allianz Football League 2017 - Division 3
« on: March 21, 2017, 12:46:23 AM »
Regular poor discipline, from a variety of players, is a major management failure.
Not striking someone in the face is more basic than hopping and soloing. And you don't expect new management to come in and teach the lads how to hop and solo now, do you. By your logic Alex Ferguson is responsible for Roy Keane pole axing Alfie Haland and trying to break his legs as well as 7 other red card offences? And I thought drinking stopped on Sunday. What about that time Cantona kung fu kicked the palace supporter and regularly got yellow and red cards? Yep, Fergies fault.

This is the thing Tony my dear friend.
You claim to be ok with criticism of Creedon and that your issue is that people are calling for his head NOW. I have made it clear that I am not calling for his head now, yet you cannot take criticism of him!

Are you implying that playing with 14 players in so many of your competitive games is normal/acceptable?
Do you not think that management have a major say in a team's discipline?
If this was a different manager, such as last years one, these incidents would partially be blamed on a lack of respect among the players for management. You keep telling us how highly the players regard this fella. You don't continuously let somebody who have the height of respect for down. Something doesn't add up there.

Criticism of Creedon is not treason or burying our heads in the sand. I speak for myself and have made it clear why I am critical of him.
He is well "compensated". I don't expect him to work miracles. But he has had long enough to have basic things like discipline in place.
There is a serious lack of discipline there. The league is almost over.
That is not good enough.

Laois / Re: Allianz Football League 2017 - Division 3
« on: March 20, 2017, 11:01:53 PM »
We would have 6 points if it wasn't for poor discipline.
Probably at least 8 if it wasn't for an injury list as long and more detrimental on any Laois team that I can remember.
Yes we have serious problems. Another poor U21 campaign highlighted that further, but Creedon is not one of them.

I must be the only one who thinks it, but as far as I am concerned that is a massive contradiction.

Regular poor discipline, from a variety of players, is a major management failure. It is a matter which requires no talent and does not depend on opposition performance. It should be easily resolved where this is respect and high standards.

If management cannot address this over the course of 5-6 months that raises serious questions, to my mind!

Laois / Re: Allianz Football League 2017 - Division 3
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:51:27 PM »
Not everybody who has criticised Creedon has suggested that we get rid of him.
Some posters would do well to comprehend that.

Some of those defending him seem to think that he shouldn't be criticised.

Too early to run him? Yes.
Too early to expect more of him and the team? No.
Too early to criticise him? No.

He's in a well paid position. I don't see any problem with people expecting the basics to be in place. For example keeping 15 men on the field on a regular basis.

Laois / Re: Allianz Football League 2017 - Division 3
« on: March 19, 2017, 07:18:51 PM »
You cannt blame the manager for what O'Connor did.

When different players are being sent off game after game, does this issue ever become a management issue?

Laois / Re: Allianz Football League 2017 - Division 3
« on: March 19, 2017, 06:56:54 PM »
Blame the manager and the setup all you want. We clearly don't have the ability. Joe Higgins, Malachy or Pat Roe are not going to change the fact that we're at a poor level at the moment with lots of injuries and some players playing well out of position. A new manager will not work miracles. Give it a break.

And a man being paid handsomely (and most likely tax free) is in a position where people are entitled to ask questions of him.
Players being sent off game after game after game reflects extremely poorly on a manager (as well as the players involved).

Laois / Re: Allianz Football League 2017 - Division 3
« on: March 19, 2017, 06:15:06 PM »
TBH when you bring somebody in, give him free reign on how he wants to do things, allow him to bring an extensive backroom team of his own choosing AND pay him a lot of money, there must be certain expectations.
Some level of discipline and beating the likes of Antrim when you need a win would be among the most basic of these expectations.

Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: March 15, 2017, 05:54:50 PM »
There is precedence for when clubs have played county minors etc to lose any points won (Ballinakill didn't win any).

What has been suggested here about McDonald is a lot more serious- whatever age he is!

Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: March 14, 2017, 11:15:05 PM »
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.

Surely not.

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