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Laois / Re: County Convention
« on: December 04, 2017, 09:54:02 PM »
Ohhh great same old same old ....non inspiring choice

As opposed to? 5 more years of Gerry Kavanagh? Bring back Dick Miller maybe? I wonder would Tom Hassett be available?
Your club either nominated nobody or nominated one of the "same old same old brigade".

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Laois / Re: County Convention
« on: December 04, 2017, 06:05:41 PM »
All the momentum with Leavy.

I said all along I thought O'Neill would get in, regardless of who dropped out.

From what I'm hearing now, I've a feeling he may be pipped again....

That would be both Mortimer and O' Neill gone. Big changes!

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Laois / Re: County Convention
« on: December 01, 2017, 03:25:49 PM »
You are excused.

I'd list Liam O' Neill and John Hanniffy as at least as influential in this turn around from not having a pot to piss in to financial stability. There were others I'm sure.

The point remains. We are lampooning volunteers before they even get a job and telling them they won't match up to the great hero Chairmen of yesteryear!
I would be much more middle of the road on this issue. They guys nominated are fine, decent, hard working GAA men. The "heroes" of yesteryear were not quite the heroes they are being made out to be.

I think this is fair. And I stand over it.

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Laois / Re: County Convention
« on: December 01, 2017, 02:15:02 PM »
Miller went in as chairman to save Laois from financial ruin and did so.

He was a fine Chairman who had his faults but did everything for the love of Laois GAA

It’s a very nasty tone to your post seeking to draw dirt on a man who did such good service to Laois GAA.




Personal or not, Parkinson is making some salient points.

Miller didn't save Laois on his own. Don't pull that one. You have the thrown lots of dirt at other potential candidates while holding up Miller as what they should all be striving to match. You can't do that and then throw a hissy fit when his faults & falls are pointed out! That is how a debate/discussion works. You should be well used to it.
I never said Miller was poor or ineffective!

That O' Neill was born in Offalyis absolutely irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

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Laois / Re: County Convention
« on: December 01, 2017, 01:06:28 AM »

Personal? And you compare him to Dick Miller, who dragged this county from self destruction! Now that’s a personal insult right there.

Do enlighten me
What? You don’t recall the county being in financial ruin? Memories are short around here.

And Dick Miller single handedly solved this?
You don't remember irregularities around ticket sales? You don't remember suspensions for certain things no official let alone a County Chairman should engage in? You don't remember a controversial vote that saw an honourable Laois man removed as Laois Senior Hurling manager?

We can all drag stuff up.
No one man "Saved" Laois.

And rest assured that Mr Parkinson's agenda is personal as usual.

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Laois / Re: County Convention
« on: November 29, 2017, 11:11:17 PM »
Have you a link to his report?

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Laois / Re: County Convention
« on: November 29, 2017, 11:07:25 PM »

Personal? And you compare him to Dick Miller, who dragged this county from self destruction! Now that’s a personal insult right there.

Do enlighten me

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Laois / Re: County Convention
« on: November 28, 2017, 06:34:05 PM »
Lads a bit personal and a bit OTT here on Peter O' Neill. The man works hard for Laois GAA, doesn't seem to be afraid of the less glamorous jobs and I don't see how he is any less qualified than any of the past 5/6 people to hold the role.

You can hardly throw accusations in advance regarding favouring Portlaoise, especially in light of the relegation issue with Stradbally a few years ago.

Also, I predicted here a long time ago that O' Neill would win it. I still think he would. The circumstances surrounding the withdrawal of Allen and Mortimer are absolutely bizarre. Is Mortimer suggesting that Allen pulled a fast one, in cahoots with O' Neill?
The only thing I will say is that people don't tend to withdraw unless they are fairly reconciled to losing out. Whatever about Allen (whose reason for running initially I still cannot understand), it would appear to me that Mortimer didn't feel he could win.
Unless of course Allen's sole purpose was to split the hurling vote?
All very bizarre!

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: November 23, 2017, 12:20:30 AM »
Mountmellick and Ballyfin again. I'm not even going to bother because I have posted in detail my opposition to this particular arrangement in the past.
And there is no point in lauding Ballyfin for being a dual club at Senior level. Ballyfin GAELS comprises a massive area with a significant population in both codes. They will eventually reap what they are currently sowing- both clubs.


What are you on about....

Ballyfin might be a big parish area wise but they have a small population.

They have done very well for about 20 years now in both codes and are a credit the themselves.



Neither of those statements are true (in my opinion)
It is a long long time since you could label the schools in Ballyfin parish as small. I posted details of this before. Look it up, take my word for it, or disagree based on a nostalgic notion that Ballyfin has a smaller population than other areas around them. Up to you.
They have made no effort to stand alone at juvenile level for the past 30 odd years. Hopping in and out of arrangements with Mountmellick, Camross, Slieve Bloom and Castletown.
Their "success" at adult level has been while "accommodating" players from Mountmellick (in hurling) and Slieve Bloom and Camross (in football).
And it is quite generous to say they have done very well for "about 20 years". Past 10 years maybe.

I have constantly held the line that I disagree with Ballyfin, and particularly Mountmellick, amalagamating with anyone- especially at juvenile. I have no axe to gring with either club EXCEPT that Laois cannot afford the luxury of pulling one juvenile team per grade from the huge number of kids available to this join up.
There are those who argued that Ballyfin and Mountmellick were forced to take this route temporarily because they wanted to get their house in order.
The fact is it is not a temporary measure. It is now a handy way out.

It is my opinion that SENIOR clubs should not have the option of joining up with other clubs. If you are promoted to senior you should be on your own. Then you are good enough to stay there or you are relegated. There are clubs in Laois (in both codes) who are so desperate to stay senior that they will join up with anyone (or attempt to) in order to stay senior. Clubs who are making an honest effort to maximise what they have are going to be continuously relegated at the expense of these "temporary little arrangements". One of Laois' biggest issues at intercounty level is that we are picking from such a small number of clubs, some people here want to reduce this number further.

For Laois GAA to prosper we need the maximum number of clubs doing things properly. That is quality coaching provided to everyone- thus producing the maximum number of players possible. This is not easy. Joining up 2 or 3 or 4 clubs and cherrypicking the best 4, 5 or 6 from each club is easy. Is it going to improve either the clubs involved or the county in the long run? No.

I haven't stated anywhere that players from non senior clubs should be denied the chance to play senior. I simply don't think they should be allowed to prop up existing senior teams. If you want to "laud" a senior football club for doing things the right way try somebody like Killeshin.

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: November 21, 2017, 05:58:48 PM »
Mountmellick and Ballyfin again. I'm not even going to bother because I have posted in detail my opposition to this particular arrangement in the past.
And there is no point in lauding Ballyfin for being a dual club at Senior level. Ballyfin GAELS comprises a massive area with a significant population in both codes. They will eventually reap what they are currently sowing- both clubs.

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Laois / Re: National Hurling Legue 1B 2018
« on: November 21, 2017, 12:32:17 AM »
Slight aside, but if Aidan Corby doesn't get U21 Hurler of the Year it is all a cod!
Almost single handedly dragged an average Clough Ballacolla team to the final. Dragged them through the second half last week and led a serious charge at coming back on Saturday.

Some really excellent performances.

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: November 19, 2017, 03:16:39 PM »
So there will be 18 senior teams? Just wondering

There would be initially but  over time  we should have 14 senior clubs plus the 2 regional teams. Someone will tell me how many teams are in the top tier of the SHC.I just believe we are going no where with this gaels scenario. Junior and intermediate clubs should not be propping up established senior clubs. The regional teams work in Cork and Kerry. Some wil say Kerry are a bigger county but they have 9 divisional teams . We can surely make two work in Laois in both codes.

I agree particularly with one thing you are saying there- if you make it to senior you should have to play on your own. Not bringing in random clubs to help keep you there.

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Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: November 18, 2017, 01:26:14 PM »
Pablo Escobar sounds great but the only problem id have is these two teams would be way stronger than 90% if not 100% of the senior clubs in Laois

I don't think they would be.

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Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: November 18, 2017, 11:13:13 AM »
Its fairly obvious that Monument Road wants it "out there" that this player/players is/are SEEKING a transfer.
The club they are seeking to transfer to ARE NOT, I repeat ARE NOT out looking for them to transfer.

Reminds me of a scene from Fr Ted
***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***
it's Saturday morning and I can't hold it back any longer...Cora Staunton to Kileen..

Brilliant!  ;D

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Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: November 18, 2017, 12:29:49 AM »
Its fairly obvious that Monument Road wants it "out there" that this player/players is/are SEEKING a transfer.
The club they are seeking to transfer to ARE NOT, I repeat ARE NOT out looking for them to transfer.

Reminds me of a scene from Fr Ted
***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***

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