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Messages - Keyser Söze

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Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2017
« on: April 23, 2017, 12:33:44 AM »
Creedon is been paid which has sucked money from everywhere else as well as this to add insult to injury he has probably lost us quite abit in revenue as nobody is going to bothered going to Laois Matches except the die hards.

This is it.
You can be sure he is being well remunerated, along with his own extensive backroom team.

Meanwhile the overall problems with Laois football are not being addressed. Some extra money to spend on projects related to this would be handy!
We were told that this appointment would prove good value as it would be one that influence all facets of Laois football. He doesn't even appear to be doing the primary role of his job particularly well.

If we are shite anyway, well then stop wasting money on Creedon and his band of helpers. Give it to someone cheaper from within Laois and use the money saved to develop from the bottom up.
We can't exactly fall any further.

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Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: April 22, 2017, 04:55:45 PM »
I suppose I mean't "shouldn't" in place of "can't". But then again we are probably heading for last resort at this stage regarding Clonaslee.

The way I heard Clonaslee people defend James Young in the weeks after that incident V Castletown last year really sums up the problems in that club. Here there most high profile hurler in 30 years was backed to the hilt after behaving disgracefully. That's the leadership they are getting.
Monkey see, monkey do.

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Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:14:24 AM »
Time for a club ban then.

I've heard 2 reports as so to what went on last night,one worse than the other,actions of the players were mentor driven against a chap who was playing well for Rosenallis,attacking a prone unconscious u16 player into the bargain.

Maybe I am soft, but you can't ban the club IMO.
On the other hand, I don't have a solution.

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Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2017
« on: April 20, 2017, 09:28:29 PM »
Let's forget about Creedon for now.

The players aren't there. Simple as. We were exposed in the league as we've no strength in depth especially with the injuries. The seagulls in the sky could see that. Could you not see it? As you say I guess, you were hardly at any matches.

And yeah I was one of those delighted that Creedon got the job last autumn. But with this league and the last 10 seasons of poor performances : I finally realised: you know what, the players are not there in Laois at the moment and everyone knows we weren't helped with injuries. Division 3 is about our standard. When will you realise that too Keyser? Took me a while I must admit. And we don't have any beanos or joe higgins or tom kellys coming through can't you see that also? Creedon is irrelevant. He's doing the same job as the next man would. We are just not good and Jim Gavin wouldn't have us much better.

Still, on a positive note: I genuinely believe that even if your players have the ability of an average Junior B side, if they're trying their best, it's always a joy to support them win or lose. We'll likely just have to get used to the latter in the next 5 years anyway. Quite a lot of it I'd say.

You just don't get it.
I give up.

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Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: April 20, 2017, 09:27:08 PM »
I See Clonaslee Thugs are at it again.
U16 hurling v  Rosenallis, player assaulted and now gone to Hospital by ambulance.
Numerous players from Clonaslee attacked him with hurls.How can the Co. Board tolerate this Club time after time this same club resort to the cowardly act of assaulting opponents and get away with it.

Terrible thing to say but there seems to be an extraordinarily high percentage of them that totally lose it at the drop of a hat.

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Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2017
« on: April 20, 2017, 12:55:42 PM »
Tony, are you Peter Creedon or a member of the committee that appointed him?

When he was appointed we were being told by posters on here that he was here to save the day.
It just about stopped short of "he knows everything- long live Peter".

Now the excuses have rolled since.
1) Players out injured
2) We are not good enough anyways
3) Players being stupid and getting sent off (and again....and again)
4) Division 4 is about our level anyways
5) They are not fit because of the last two managers.
6) Leave him alone, you're so mean to Peter. I like Peter. Peter is lovely.

As a matter of interest what championship games did we lose last year because the other team were fitter than us?
We didn't look any less fit than Armagh for example last July. (peak season for both Armagh and Laois). So if McGeeney is as thorough in his preparations and particularly in terms of fitness as we think he is, and we didn't look any less fit than Armagh last July.......it sounds like our fitness side of things weren't exactly disastrous last year.
Creedon wasn't coming in to Fat Club or to try and coach the Underdogs to play Kerry.

What you're doing is just copying what others have posted and taking that as fact. "Oh they've upped the training in April so that means they weren't training properly before that". That is false.
I think you will find that you are the only poster that I referenced in my post- and your assertion that Laois are not fit enough. Unless of course you are saying that what you posted is "false"?

Fitness = cardio, strength and conditioning. These can be improved in a few months but it takes YEARS to build up the levels that the top 8 - 12 teams in the country have. We're way off that required level but it seems that your only answer for that is Creedon.

2 things.
1) I think you will find that I used the term "preparation" and not the term "fitness".There is a whole lot more to this than "fitness".
2) Why are you talking about the top 8-12 teams in the country? All we had to do was be as "fit" and well prepared as teams 20 & 21- in this years league Offaly and Longford- hardly powerhouses. Along with Louth, Antrim and Sligo they didn't exactly kick until late August in 2016. They haven't exactly been renowned for their incredible fitness levels for the past 3 years. What fantastic base did Colin Kelly have to work with in Louth? Or Pat Flanagan in Offaly?
NOBODY is asking for Laois to suddenly be as "fit" and well prepared as the top 8-12 teams. Stop deflecting.

but it seems that your only answer for that is Creedon.

Wrong, again. I have never stated that the only problem is Creedon. BUT the failings of this management team are at some stage going to have to be accepted for what they are.
How long more can everything be the fault of TOF and ML?

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Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2017
« on: April 19, 2017, 10:41:30 PM »
It takes more than a few months to get proper fit, you absolute donkeys.

What are you basing this on?
The more you post here the more obvious it is that you know absolutely NOTHING about team preparation, management responsibilities, management function and a whole host of other things that are intrinsic to preparation and performance.

Laois are training since last November (I assume?).
You have seen more of Laois than I have this year. It is who claim they are not fit enough. What excuse is there for this? His own backroom team, county board support and the new pitches beside O' Moore Park.

Watch the "donkey" talk. You don't seem particularly knowledgeable in the area you are trying to hold court in.

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Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2017
« on: April 19, 2017, 02:26:57 PM »
How can a well paid team manager, justify only now getting his team fit? What was he doing all winter? What is he being paid for?

Working on discipline  :D

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Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: April 16, 2017, 06:29:33 PM »
Saw that camross only managed to beat Shanahoe Gales by 4 points in the Palmer Cup final yesterday with basically their first team out. Hard to know if they played badly or could the Gales team be able to challenge Ballyfin Gales and The Harps for senior B honours

I'd say it was a case of doing enough to beat what's in front of you.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: April 15, 2017, 09:36:19 PM »
Walsh, the manager, saying it's been going on since last year and didn't want to name names but someone should be hung out over it. Parlon played last year for Laois and has obviously been training all along with the minors so he'd be entitled to be pissed off.

A certain hurry as he may or may not be known

How could it possible be his fault?
Player registrations/eligibility etc etc go well above the head of development squad coaches.
Silly comment.

I know his father well and that seems to be the case, be it a silly comment or not it seems to be the talk of the town as they say. May it be false i retract it

I don't know the chap, I don't know where he lives etc
BUT
If I was Chairman or Secretary of a club and a "new" player suddenly became eligible to play for us, or a player from outside our catchment area turned up to play for us, I know that I would be assuming responsibility for checking out that this was all above board.
A mentor telling me that it was "all ok" wouldn't be the extent of my investigation. A very strange scenario.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: April 14, 2017, 03:45:10 PM »
Walsh, the manager, saying it's been going on since last year and didn't want to name names but someone should be hung out over it. Parlon played last year for Laois and has obviously been training all along with the minors so he'd be entitled to be pissed off.

A certain hurry as he may or may not be known

How could it possible be his fault?
Player registrations/eligibility etc etc go well above the head of development squad coaches.
Silly comment.

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Laois / Re: ACFL Division 1A
« on: April 12, 2017, 09:21:32 PM »
Have to say Ballyroan were very impressive against Stradbally. Seem to have a few of the abbeyleix lads on board too so could be a push to come this year. Have to say I was seriously impressed by Eoin Reilly, looked every bit a county footballer marking lads who have been in and around the county set up.

Welcome aboard Eoin!

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Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2017
« on: April 12, 2017, 09:19:57 PM »
Any thoughts on why S&C expert CO'N is so heavy? Seems odd to me.

Classic ;D

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: April 06, 2017, 12:11:12 AM »
How about putting in place a cumman na mbunscoil structure for the younger classes?.

I'm sure then the volunteers would come on board.

Cumann na mbunscoil is run by teachers?
There are some members of your club involved I would imagine. Have you ever asked them to do so?

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Laois / Re: Video's
« on: April 05, 2017, 05:31:16 PM »
Not really. Kieran Lillis was sent off in the replay and that didn't help us at all but we'll blame management for that.

Was there a player sent off in each of the preceding 4 games also?

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