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Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: Today at 12:41:50 AM »
Things could be worse for Derry. Maurice Deegan could be the Referee,oh wait,he is!
So if Derry lose, Deegan will be partially to blame? Grow up.

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 25, 2017, 09:45:12 AM »
Agree with sentiment but logic? Doire 0-00 Dún 1-10 in Celtic Park recently springs to mind.

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 18, 2017, 11:14:44 AM »
To paraphrase, that he might prefer another away draw on Monday for the team because of criticism from home "supporters". That is what Radio Ulster and Paddy Cunningham picked up on as "sad".

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 17, 2017, 07:35:04 PM »
Indeed I am not, however if our football team in was in rude health you know they would not have been involved last weekend. It is another indicator.
I think the Slaughtneil template suggests otherwise.  Footballers did well today, a no win situation but put the game to bed early. Interesting interview with Chrissy after the match!

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 15, 2017, 08:02:59 PM »
I have always wanted the county to win no matter the situation...but for the first time i am thinking maybe it would be for the best if we lose on Saturday. Men leaving the panel left and right and total apathy towards it by the majority of supporters, add to this the fact we are not near good enough to beat the first average team we meet never mind a good one and what is the point? a defeat would allow the shambles to come to an end and see Barton gone.
The point is that the team is representing Derry, that means all of us, and deserves our support - no matter what the result.

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 10, 2017, 01:52:33 PM »
Doubt if he is really a Bellaghy man. With the amount of camogie around the club he could get a camán round his 'tone' brave and quick!

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 06, 2017, 10:33:01 PM »
Who is asking?

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 04, 2017, 11:47:10 PM »
I mean like, sorry, what are you talking about?

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 02, 2017, 04:47:33 PM »
Shamrocks will not be far away come championship.

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: June 01, 2017, 12:31:34 AM »
Says Jim McGuinness "I like Colum McCann." Who in under Jaysus is that? And McGuinness knows what he is talking about? Might be a brother of Conall?!

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: May 30, 2017, 07:54:55 PM »
Phoned Bobby there now, he was busy eating onions but said to tell you that he never played internationally against Tyrone. The good news is that Ben McKinless is definitely a bonus and for the first time in two years there actually was a kick out strategy. Now we need a "what will I do with this 50?" strategy and a "who in under Jesus is taking this free" strategy.

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: May 30, 2017, 06:08:48 PM »
Did anyone see any of the Derry men walking off the field on Sunday who looked really busted? I didn't. Did you see the way the Tyrone defensive setup was still setting up with the same intensity in the 73rd minute as it was in the 3rd minute? Colm Cavanagh sprinting back from the Derry 20m line to his own 20m line in the last couple of mins, setting himself and getting his breath back in position? Hunger / desire. I've already explained, or attempted to explain why Sunday's

heavy defeat wasn't down to fitness, rather a combination of ability, coaching and desire. Have ye's ever seen a game, be it club or county when a team with lower fitness levels (could be waiting to peak for championship, players coming back from injury, training not what it should be etc) winning because of hunger, heart? It happens all the time. The Robbie’s will be unleashing Patsy more as the championship looms on the horizon. Patsy will not have the footballing fitness of the man he's marking just yet, but I bet he won't lose the battle ie hunger and heart of which Tyrone won hands down Big Enda's age has been a topic on here of late. The big man is still standing out , not because of fitness (he would never have been the fitness, but because of his footballing ability ie skill level, again Tyrone trumped us in this department on Sunday.


Take the Tyrone bench / squad. Tonnes of county experience and each and every one of them chomping at the bit to get on and the players in the starting 15 know this. Tyrone have their nailed on starters eg the Cavanaghs, Harte, McCarron, Mattie Donnelly, Sludden etc..but these men put a shift in, pretty much without question, every time they pull on the Tyrone Jersey. If their performance levels drop, someone is waiting in the wings. However, a lot of the other men starting on Sunday are

continuously fighting to keep the jersey, hence the hunger shown by them right up to the final whistle on Sunday. That’s a luxury we just don't have at the minute. Through injury, personal reasons, whatever, we just don’t have the competition for places to really spur men on.

Finally, and this is my final point on it, (as I fear I'm dealing with a poster, who continuously repeats himself without offering anything  ie a sock puppet I'd hazard)though none would admit, I'd say, due to the level we're currently playing at, and the recent history between the teams, some of our men were beaten (psychologically as opposed to physiologically) before they walked onto the field on Sunday.

Derry football will rise again, of that I’ve no doubt

Not with bluffers like you involved.  You and your pretend stats. Your bluff was called trying to "impress".  Pity, because some of your other points are good but bluffing takes away from the integrity of your posts.  Lack of fitness was a major factor on Sunday and was plain for all to see. No excuse for it at county level.  Time to jog on.

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: May 30, 2017, 08:13:41 AM »
Getting the team fit is part of the way forward, that is constructive. Do you think Derry were fit enough on Sunday?

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: May 29, 2017, 11:32:32 PM »
Apparently Derry are really fit, according to one poster. Blind leading the blind. Up a dark Division 3 alley. Honesty is the only way forward.

Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: May 29, 2017, 10:23:00 PM »
McGuckin is it great condition? Lynch is in good condition? Tallon is up to the physical challenges at this level?  Need we mention Nevin? But you have seen the stats, share them with the board.

My ma told me not to share info with bin lids. McGuckin is about 90% there, has really bought into the S & C this past 12 months. Nevin yes, Tallon yes, Lynch is running about 40%. Yourself and few others are still hanging onto the s & c excuse. As a collective, the Derry squad are in superb physical  shape, way ahead of where they were last year (big Lynch being the exception)

As I thought, exposed to the board as an another stats bluffer. The real stats were on the scoreboard at the end of another hammering yesterday.

Look, the lazy explanation for yesterday's defeat was fitness. I'll say it again, it was not fitness. Have you ever coached or managed a man's team? Fitness is 1 element. We weren't any less fit than Tyrone. System wise we're miles behind Tyrone though.  They had an abundance of players ahead of the ball yesterday and break in swarms (this is rotated to give men a breather) hence they were able to work a free man in the scoring zone manned by our blanket defence.
Application of the swarm defence, counter attack. Again, Tyrone are years ahead of us in this regard.
Footballing ability: we've got some superb footballers, again Tyrone are ahead there as they have a whole heap of superb footballers.
Then you have elements that come from within each player. Heart, desire, courage and pride in the shirt / their own personal performance etc..
Match ups, we matched up well, but again Harte pulled the wool over Barton's eye's. Donnelly was a sacrificial lamb as took McKaigue on a merry dance around every blade of grass on CP. In the corners, along the sideline ie places McKaigue couldn't cause any damage in offensive terms.
Tyrone are also light years ahead of cuteness and engineering frees, playing the referee. We're probably too nice and too honest in that regard.
Again,  with squad strength and depth and experience there is no comparison between the two teams.
You see, there were / are many factors, but you work away and blame fitness levels and moan at a man who is telling you for a fact that Derry's fitness levels are excellent, and are not to blame for yesterday's heavy defeat
And please tell us the fitness levels of Nevin, Lynch and McGuckin.  Put your stats where your mouth is. Let the board judge the excellent fitness levels that you know as a fact. No moaning, just tell us the stats that you know.

Look, this is tiresome at this stage. I've mentioned those 3 men already and attempted to explain how Sundays defeat wasn't down to fitness. You on the otherhand....
No, it is a matter of trust. Do you know the stats or not?

I've seen them. I've also seen the individual programs for players for gym work and running. The detail in the programmes is incredible. I've also spoken with the man in charge of s & c. No stone has been left unturned re s & c. The s & c team imo are the best about (I don't know McMahon or any of the others personally) . Am I going to relay the info to you, am I buck (you brought up trust). Again, I'm trying to explain why fitness wasn't the reason we lost on Sun.  You are as welcome to your opinions as I to mine
Not me, the board. You know the facts. Not opinion, facts. Last opportunity.

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