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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: Today at 09:44:59 AM »
Posted without comment. From Cootehill Celtic's (Cavan) Facebook Page, dated 9th April...

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A video potraying the views of Tyrone GAA Manager Mickey Harte was recently shot at our pitch WITHOUT Club knowledge or consent. Our Club is non-political and non-sectarian - as such we would never tell citizens how to vote - that is a matter for individuals to decide at the ballot-box, none of a GAA Club's business. We have requested that the video, falsely associating our Club with Mr. Harte's views, be taken down forthwith.
 PS - Tyrone Co.Board has expressed regret at any annoyance caused to CC Club/members by Mr.Harte's unauthorised use of our premises - but also regrets it is unable to take down the video.

https://www.facebook.com/cootehill.celtic/posts/2124563204443175

That's fairly black and white for me.
If right is right, a suspension will follow.
Gives Croke Park some leverage anyway.
If Harte was suspended as a matter of interest, how would Tyrone fans react?

would be very divided opinion. Some think he can do no wrong, others have had enough of him

Wonder what the county board think.
To be honest, I don't think Croke Park will go after him on this as it will stir up a hornets nest.
They should though.

What about the women who used gaa grounds to promote the no vote? Should the GAA go after them too?

For all the talk of this being about the principle of it theres very little talk of any other of the GAA athletes involved in this bar Harte. Sheridan has been mentioned once but Gallagher and the rest have been mentioned in the midst of hardly any posts. Now Im not aiming this at you jinxy but some people are barely concealing their dislike of Harte behind the thin veil of concern for the GAAs non political stance.

To be fair, he's the most high-profile person in the group and he is still actively involved at the elite level of gaelic games.
Not sure how this group came together but my assumption (perhaps an incorrect assumption) would be that Mickey was the first person they went looking for.
I'd never heard of Gallagher before and Big Joe is retired.
I don't actually dislike Mickey Harte at all and I feel that he is an easy target for scorn because he is religious.
All of the things he has said in done in recent years in terms of being a character witness, opposing same-sex marriage etc. are consistent with his faith.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: Today at 12:17:23 AM »
Posted without comment. From Cootehill Celtic's (Cavan) Facebook Page, dated 9th April...

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A video potraying the views of Tyrone GAA Manager Mickey Harte was recently shot at our pitch WITHOUT Club knowledge or consent. Our Club is non-political and non-sectarian - as such we would never tell citizens how to vote - that is a matter for individuals to decide at the ballot-box, none of a GAA Club's business. We have requested that the video, falsely associating our Club with Mr. Harte's views, be taken down forthwith.
 PS - Tyrone Co.Board has expressed regret at any annoyance caused to CC Club/members by Mr.Harte's unauthorised use of our premises - but also regrets it is unable to take down the video.

https://www.facebook.com/cootehill.celtic/posts/2124563204443175

That's fairly black and white for me.
If right is right, a suspension will follow.
Gives Croke Park some leverage anyway.
If Harte was suspended as a matter of interest, how would Tyrone fans react?

would be very divided opinion. Some think he can do no wrong, others have had enough of him

Wonder what the county board think.
To be honest, I don't think Croke Park will go after him on this as it will stir up a hornets nest.
They should though.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 11:56:49 PM »
Posted without comment. From Cootehill Celtic's (Cavan) Facebook Page, dated 9th April...

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A video potraying the views of Tyrone GAA Manager Mickey Harte was recently shot at our pitch WITHOUT Club knowledge or consent. Our Club is non-political and non-sectarian - as such we would never tell citizens how to vote - that is a matter for individuals to decide at the ballot-box, none of a GAA Club's business. We have requested that the video, falsely associating our Club with Mr. Harte's views, be taken down forthwith.
 PS - Tyrone Co.Board has expressed regret at any annoyance caused to CC Club/members by Mr.Harte's unauthorised use of our premises - but also regrets it is unable to take down the video.

https://www.facebook.com/cootehill.celtic/posts/2124563204443175

That's fairly black and white for me.
If right is right, a suspension will follow.
Gives Croke Park some leverage anyway.
If Harte was suspended as a matter of interest, how would Tyrone fans react?

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 08:29:56 PM »
Heard Alan Milton on the radio when I was driving home.
Pretty much said that the GAA can't stop people using the word 'GAA' for things like this, which I was a bit surprised at.
Got the impression they were going to get in touch with Mickey & Co. about it anyway.
Will probably ask them to publicly state that they are not representing the GAA.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 04:52:00 PM »
Maybe it's time to move this away from the GAA thread!

+1000
It's giving me a headache.

Was Harte and co dragged it into the GAA arena.

Yeah, and while we were actually discussing that, it was an interesting thread.
Now, it just seems to be people making arguments for/against abortion.
Not the place for it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 04:15:59 PM »
Maybe it's time to move this away from the GAA thread!

+1000
It's giving me a headache.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 03:22:36 PM »
Rule 1.11 of the Official Guide states: 'The Association shall be non-party political. Party political questions shall not be discussed at its meetings, and no Committee, Club, Council or representative thereof shall take part, as such, in any party political movement. A penalty of up to twenty four weeks suspension may be imposed for infringement'.
Now, we're into interesting territory here, what constitutes party politics?
Is this rule fit for purpose or should it be re-worded to provide greater clarity?

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 03:13:44 PM »
Lads, where do university GAA clubs fit in here?
https://twitter.com/ul_gaa/status/715165663078252544
Breaking the rules or not?

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 01:57:11 PM »
Lads, I'm not sure if this is the right place to discuss the actual referendum itself.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 12:51:42 PM »
How to stump a save the 8ther - Hypothetical Question


If you could choose only one, would you save 1,000 viable human embryos or one child in a burning building?

If you could choose only one, would you save 1,000 strangers or your own child in a burning building?

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 12:29:33 PM »
Louth folk are notoriously liberal.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 12:14:53 PM »
 ;D
Mickey brought in Big Joe to get the 'No' vote over the line.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 11:24:56 AM »
One of the most vexing things for me re Mickey Harte's group is that they obviously put a lot of thought into how they could maximise the perception that this was a 'GAA' group, without actually being in technical breach of any rules (that I can see at least).
The name, the location for the launch, the deliberate blurring of the lines between their position and the strategic vision of the association etc.
It's incredibly cynical stuff.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 11:00:34 AM »
Writing to the county secretaries is largely a PR exercise.
The GAA have to be seen to do something about this and yet it is not clear if any rules have been broken.
I'd imagine most people at county board level would be well aware of their responsibilities re the associations non-political stance.
Croke Park has had to engage in a certain amount of 'both sides-ism' in response to this issue, but in terms of GAA personalities advocating for a 'Yes' vote, the most high-profile of those is Eamon McGee but I have not seen or heard him even reference the GAA thus far.
He's involved in the campaign as a private citizen of this country and he is fully entitled to be.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'
« on: April 23, 2018, 10:11:19 AM »
You don't have to be older and/or religious to vote 'No', but I'd imagine the bulk of that vote will be drawn from one or both of those categories.
It's a numbers game and if there is a relatively high turn-out, I can only see it going one way.

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