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hurlingstick

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Re: Antrim, the way forward
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2015, 08:54:53 PM »
I cannot agree that Joe Edwards is anywhere near capable for chair, let alone more than capable. While you praise him on fixtures, cast your mind back to what made Antrim the biggest laughing stock in the country this year, with us being ridiculed on the Sunday Game?

Better the devil you know is a cop out. The devil we know has been a total failure and if we don't try an alternative, now that the opportunity has arisen, we can only blame ourselves. There is no guarantee that the alternative will be better but if you don't try something else, you'll end up with the same result. They have denied that they are scrapping divisional boards btw.

Finally, the fact that a man who has given money to Antrim for the last number of years is unhappy with those using the money says a lot really.

Joe Edwards has done a fantastic job in the various posts he has held. Not everyone's cup of tea but puts the graft in. Fixtures run smoothly and nobody pulls the wool over his eyes. Do you know how many voluntary hours he puts in a week? Never claims expenses, exactly the type of honest workmanship needed.

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Re: Antrim, the way forward hurling stick you are right about joe well said
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2015, 09:14:37 PM »
I cannot agree that Joe Edwards is anywhere near capable for chair, let alone more than capable. While you praise him on fixtures, cast your mind back to what made Antrim the biggest laughing stock in the country this year, with us being ridiculed on the Sunday Game?

Better the devil you know is a cop out. The devil we know has been a total failure and if we don't try an alternative, now that the opportunity has arisen, we can only blame ourselves. There is no guarantee that the alternative will be better but if you don't try something else, you'll end up with the same result. They have denied that they are scrapping divisional boards btw.

Finally, the fact that a man who has given money to Antrim for the last number of years is unhappy with those using the money says a lot really.

Joe Edwards has done a fantastic job in the various posts he has held. Not everyone's cup of tea but puts the graft in. Fixtures run smoothly and nobody pulls the wool over his eyes. Do you know how many voluntary hours he puts in a week? Never claims expenses, exactly the type of honest workmanship needed.

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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2015, 09:18:39 PM »
Hurling stick your right about joe well said  does a job were everyone hates him but does it fair so good luck to him

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« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2015, 09:36:38 PM »
Hurling stick your right about joe well said  does a job were everyone hates him but does it fair so good luck to him

We can't tar everyone with the same brush. If we adopted that line of thinking every club would be w#$@ers because of a select few. Joe works his socks off. He deserves credit for his giving of time and effort. I'm not speaking in favour of the current board but I am speaking out for someone who I know first hand gives his all.

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« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2015, 11:43:21 PM »
Culchie I saw you yesterday at the match and afterwards hard in discussion outside the dressing room.

It's not the oul hands you need to convince. It's the younger smarter gael who isn't prepared to take much more of the same kind of shite for much longer. Those men you talked to know no better. They have been so used to seeing our county fail for so long now that they have accepted that as our eternal fate. By the way I was talking to both of them an hour ago in the club.

In fact if you see my post this morning it is that Saffron Vision need to educate the typical clubman that they are every bit as good and dedicated and experienced a gael (and might I add with the potential to be much much better) as those who have gone through regional boards as their springboard in recent years.
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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2015, 11:55:24 PM »
Hurlingstick & Clover your sticking up for the work of Joe Edwards is admirable. I don't know the man but yes I acknowlege that he has been in the bear pit fighting fires and trying to sort out Antrims problems for the best part of ten years. Does he not need a rest at this stage? Does he not think himself that maybe things just haven't gone as well as he might have liked.....and that maybe letting a different face/voice/crowd in might be in the best interests of the county???

Just thinking like.....

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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2015, 12:02:17 AM »
Culchie another point.

What have you against letting clubs or regional boards host an information session to hear what Saffron Vision have to offer. You would be welcome to join the discussion and stand up and voice your concerns.

My feeling is that because the county is in such a mess that the emergence of a group who are presenting themselves with the sole purpose of sorting this mess out for once and for all should be welcomed. Exactly why would you not be in favour of that?

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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2015, 05:55:35 AM »
Fair play to wee joe. He has done a sterling job so far, long may it continue.
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« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2015, 07:59:27 AM »
I'd have thought that anyone who has completed a ten year shift at county level might just want to go back to his club and attempt to improve their lot.

I really worry when gaa career officials (Joe isn't the only one by a far stretch) think that working at county level is somehow a superior feat than working at own club level.

The men going forward for SV have a great mixture of club experiences.

And they will be fresh too.



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« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2015, 09:50:39 AM »
My  initial reaction to  Saffrons was positive.  Change is needed at CB level, but after listening to the now infamous voice mail left to the SA chairman i would have serious problems supporting that particular candidate. Also the removal of the divisional boards i can not agree with. We play in one all county league, Minor. That has been an awful league for us. When it was SW league we were sure of games and fixture dates, but now in all county, very few city teams travel to play their away fixtures if more than 10 miles outside their home base and give little or no notice if they are not fullfiling a fixture. The 16-18 age group is the biggest drop off time for young players and if we cannot give them regular football they will leave. I think the SW board does an excellent job and i would not like to see it removed. Still change is badly needed at the top and while a few of the saffron candidates would look like excellent supporting then a full ticket is problematic.

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« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2015, 09:57:07 AM »
Removal of divisional boards is a strange one to declare if you are looking for votes?
Purely in tactical terms.

What's the voicemail story?
I appear to have been under a rock for that!

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« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2015, 10:08:51 AM »
My  initial reaction to  Saffrons was positive.  Change is needed at CB level, but after listening to the now infamous voice mail left to the SA chairman i would have serious problems supporting that particular candidate. Also the removal of the divisional boards i can not agree with. We play in one all county league, Minor. That has been an awful league for us. When it was SW league we were sure of games and fixture dates, but now in all county, very few city teams travel to play their away fixtures if more than 10 miles outside their home base and give little or no notice if they are not fullfiling a fixture. The 16-18 age group is the biggest drop off time for young players and if we cannot give them regular football they will leave. I think the SW board does an excellent job and i would not like to see it removed. Still change is badly needed at the top and while a few of the saffron candidates would look like excellent supporting then a full ticket is problematic.

I would second the south west thing. I would hate to see the board removed - at every age group through the ranks we had a guaranteed match every week. That does not seem possible when you take the south west board out of it. The league action and the south west championships are great. The split of the underage leagues into having a shield also gets more games for kids. I don't think it should even be under consideration for being removed.

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Re: Antrim, the way forward
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2015, 10:45:03 AM »
bannside on ur idea that wee joe should take a rest, I would counter act that and say where have saffron view been for the ten years he has been trying his best for Antrim GAA?!

I didn't c u in newry yest, if I had I would've had a good chat about this situation!

Hopefully later we can get the full list of nominees and just c who is running against who!
Because in my opinion that's how it will work 8 two horse races!

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« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2015, 11:06:47 AM »
There are good candidates involved outside of Saffron Vision. Eight two horse races is what it will turn out to be in my opinion. I've never said differently. I am not a spokesman for Saffron Vision. I want what's best for Antrim full stop.

I don't support this all county league stuff either just because South Antrim can't get their house in order in this regard.

Let's not all jump to automatic conclusions. And Culchie you know where I live you can talk to me anytime.

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« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2015, 11:21:11 AM »
And anyway this stuff about all county leagues is      not something that will happen without the consent of the democratic majority and so can't see that happening. NA and SW leagues running perfectly. City leagues a shambles and have been for years. The same way that SA board have been a shambles too.....and that's where some of our current officials have emanated.

Work it out for yourselves!