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GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Football Championships 2018
« on: May 21, 2018, 09:46:07 AM »
Huge problem here aswell to be honest was the Cork board are completely hurling oriented. They don't give a sh*t about football, so eveey fixture revolves around "what suits hurling"..and of course, Jerry O'Sullivan the current chairman in Munster is A Cork hurling man. He'll do whatever Frank below says.

I wouldn't always agree with Liam Kearns and managers often have rants to cover their own incompetence, but he is spot on in that Tipp FM interview. This should not have happened with this fixture. I actually think it may be an added motivation to Tipp now though and I expect them to win.

Have to say this was a most enjoyable game to watch. Think the Corey goal was a crucial score just before the break. Really more than 3 pts that one. Both teams played some good football but Monaghan did look a bit more honed and they have clearly put in a serious amount of work and thought to their game since last year even. As an attacking force, they could be very hard to contain now IF they can perform in Croker.
Tyrone should do well in the back door and will be there or thereabouts yet. Clearly things not totally right in the camp and as others say, couldn't believe when I saw a player remonstrate with Mickey Harte!

A bit of background. Brian Gavin is of course an ex-referee, but he is also an 'analyst/co-commentator' on Midlands Radio 3, and he is chairman of Clara GAA and a delegate to the County Board.
Tommy Byrne has been Chairman of Offaly County Board twice at least, and in a previous stint he also was instrumental in a change of management back in 2003. It was after the first year of a 3 year plan, blooding young lads (including a young Niall McNamee) and Championship results were not bad. Lost to Laois after a very contentious last minute equaliser in O'Moore Park forced a replay (Laois won Leinster that year), beat London and Clare in Ennis in the qualifiers, and lost to a Frankie Dolan inspired Roscommon after Extra Time in Mullingar in Round 3.  Tommy has form here. Since then, the instability has reigned, with I don't know how many managers since then. Pat Flanagan's treatment last year was unsavoury as well.

On the other hand, there have been rumours of discontent in the camp. The player Alan McNamee tweeted about fell out with Wallace, and a few others have reported a general unease in the camp. The League was not good, barely stayed up by beating a disinterested Westmeath. The body language of the players on Sunday was not good or happy looking, so I think it's fair to say there was some level of tension in the camp, if not exactly what Brian Gavin seems to have described. Which brings me to my own theory.

I think the Wallace incident in Kerry was embarrassing for the County Board, and not a good reflection on our senior manager. I think they knew some lads in the camp were unhappy (but not all, by any means). I think they'd have liked to get rid of him as soon as that broke, but they didn't want a player revolt if the majority still wanted him to continue with them. I further think that the performance on Sunday, allied to the unhappiness on the day of senior players gave them their opportunity, and Brian Gavin was primed to pump information into the media. They are not stupid, so by that spin getting into the media they knew it would garner national attention.

They are now able to play two tunes on the same fiddle. 1 - Oh the players are unhappy, but let's not bring the players into this, they are not responsible for this, it's our decision. and 2 - The suspension and his behaviour in Kerry mean he can't fulfill his duties as manager.

I think #2 is the real reason, as well as an embarrassment that this man is the figurehead of our senior team, and he's below in Kerry boxing the heads off lads at a club game.

As with everything in the GAA in Offaly there appears to be enough blame to go around. I give Tommy Byrne and the County Board very little credit because of their previous behaviour in relation to managers, but likewise I think Stephen Wallace has done himself no favours, and to be honest the Kerry issue probably does make his position untenable in reality. He can't attend training, he can't be pitchside, and he can't do video analysis with them. His appeal only finished on Saturday evening, so you're looking at another 6-8 weeks of that sort of mess.

I don't think the players are completely blameless. We have a lot of X and Y are unhappy etc, seemingly every year, and I don't know what manager doesn't fall out with some players at some stage. But I think of the 3 parties here, the players are the least to blame. By all accounts they are a dedicated bunch, and they have largely kept their counsel since Sunday, apart from Nigel Dunne himself rubbishing some of the sensationalist parts of Brian Gavin's account. This 'leak' of the letter is suspicious too, but even at that, it's not the typical scenario in these circumstances, it appears to be supportive of management, and it does appear the County Board have unilaterally made this decision.

Thanks for that synopsis lad. Very messy and nobody blameless really so.

Wallace is a clown, no 2 ways about it. Some of his antics on the line in recent years with IT Tralee even before this latest episode with Ardfert his club - well if I was involved in making the decision to appoint him Offaly manager and word reached me of them (which you'd imagine it should have?) then I would have thought twice about appointing him in the first place. Then when he brought a spoofer with him to take most of the sessions (Sheehan) I would have been even more worried.

Does however seem like a Co Board that aren't operating to a high standard either I think it's fair to say? I know players should be possibly doing better anyway but it's hard to get 100% when that kind of atmosphere is there. I've seen it on an even greater scale in Cork. People say "ah the Footballers are sh*t"..but while the hurlers are training in proper gyms and on all-weather pitches, the Footballers are having to build their own gym in a dank warehouse in a town 2 hours drive from where some players live. Double standards, sneakiness and underhanded activities then become part of the narrative - much like the Offaly board sending out Gavin to get the narrative they want into the public domain. Sickens me to see that kind of stuff anywhere when players are breaking their b*llix training.

I'm no fan of Wallace, his carry on in that club game with Mitchels recently is typical of him. He also left his own club and went to a bigger club (Kerins O'Rahillys) when they weren't doing great, so he's not my type of character. And his buffoon of a "coach" is even worse.

That being said, IF it's accurate that the players all expressed their support of the management and wanted to drive on and pick things up, then what the hell are the board at? I think the likes of Brian Gavin (who is a hurling man anyway) have come across poorly here and it seems quite obvious that there are big problems with the leadership of Offaly GAA. The likes of AZ will know more than me on that.
Maybe things would have got worse under Wallace, I don't know. This year is most likely a write-off now anyway. I feel sorry for the players more than anyone IF they are genuinely putting in a good effort.

Edit: literally as I was typing, a mate text me about Wallace going on Off the ball this morning! Sacked and wants to go on National media - FFS. You would think he would go away and lick his wounds quietly, but no. Not his style.   ::)

GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Football Championships 2018
« on: April 13, 2018, 11:05:17 AM »
Kerry v Cork in Munster minor semi-final.  Loser of that is done for the year.

Not necessarily the case that Kerry and Cork meet. Limerick playing Tipp in a playoff and if they win, they cannot face Clare again so Clare/Limerick and Cork/Kerry will have to be redrawn for the semi finals.

Bit of a nuts system. The Cork v Waterford game the other night for example is utterly pointless and did nothing for either team or development of football in either county.

And yet if Tipp beat Limerick, they'll face Waterford for a chance to play Clare in a semi final. So you get a right tonking off Kerry, and then have a back door route through Limerick, Waterford and Clare, whereas poor Cork and Kerry's reward for winning is a straight knockout against each other. Mental.

*disclaimer, I am in no way assuming that Tipp will win those 3 games. This is not a very strong Tipp minor side.

Kerry will walk Munster tbh, and that's not bias talking. There's nobody getting near them based on seeing the players involved at u16. Cork are weak enough at this grade also.
The whole system is a mess though.

GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Football Championships 2018
« on: April 13, 2018, 06:05:54 AM »
Kerry v Cork in Munster minor semi-final.  Loser of that is done for the year.

Not necessarily the case that Kerry and Cork meet. Limerick playing Tipp in a playoff and if they win, they cannot face Clare again so Clare/Limerick and Cork/Kerry will have to be redrawn for the semi finals.

Bit of a nuts system. The Cork v Waterford game the other night for example is utterly pointless and did nothing for either team or development of football in either county.

GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
« on: January 28, 2018, 08:45:46 PM »
Bit of a sickening loss in the end for Donegal. Played very well after going down to 14. McBrearty and MacNiallais were immense. But a few very soft hometown decisions, some slack marking and a fucked-up lockout leading to the second Kerry goal made the difference.
The ref seemed to buy every silicon enhanced fall to floor made by a Kerry player.

Same as yesterday game. Anytime contact made to  player in possession dived to ground holding his head.

Are ye f**king serious? McLoone and McHugh gave their best auditions for Swan Lake today, was Kerry players who were diving?   ;D Fierce balance here altogether!

GAA Discussion / Re: County GAA Crests.
« on: January 20, 2018, 04:33:17 PM »
Man, there is some random shit on Youtube!  ;D

GAA Discussion / Re: County GAA Crests.
« on: January 20, 2018, 01:52:06 AM »
Kerry - The current Kerry GAA crest ìs new since 2012, and is a set of items supposed to reference elements of the county.

County name – A bold decorative Celtic-style Ciarraí brand featuring a crowned C which pays homage to the county’s moniker, 'The Kingdom'

Kerry’s people – St Brendan and his epic voyage: an inspiring tale of bravery, skill and innovation. The naomhóg (a craft associated with the coastal communities around Kerry) is propelled by a sail featuring a Celtic cross – the symbol of the GAA

Kerry’s fauna – Red Deer (Fia Rua): Ireland’s largest wild animal whose only remaining native herd is found on the slopes of Torc and Mangerton. These animals are believed to have had a continuous presence in Ireland since the end of the last Ice Age (c. 10,000 BC) and are steeped in folklore. It is said that ‘Tuan’, the King of the Deer, was given rights of free passage by Fionn McCool to the mountains of Kerry and that his blood line lives on in the present herd

Kerry’s landscape – Skellig Michael’s iconic silhouette rising out of the Atlantic Ocean. A designated UNESCO World Heritage site and famous around the globe

Kerry’s flora – KIllarney woodland fern that thrives in wild exotic places; an evocation of majestic mountains, valleys and hills

Kerry’s artistry – A background pattern of concentric circles inspired by the gilding on the Ballinclemisig ‘gold box’ (part of the ‘Kerry gold hoard’ in the National Museum) and by Bronze Age stone carvings found all over Kerry

Kerry’s birdlife – Storm Petrel (An Guairdeall): Kerry plays host to the largest numbers of this species anywhere in the world and is the world headquarters for breeding pairs

A huge improvement on its predecessor which was far too cluttered IMHO:

Well, forgive this "animal" for disagreeing massively with you on that one Eamonn!

I liked the old crest and was disgusted when I heard they were changing it because the idiots never properly registered the old crest as a trademark.  >:(

Fwiw the old crest showed:
- Rattoo round tower. Still, standing on the plains of North Kerry, this 900 year old structure has been used as a symbol by many organisations, including Ballyduff which is the nearest GAA club to it.
- The McGillicuddy reeks and Carrauntoohill. One of the most well known geographical features of Kerry and the country even. The reeks are the backdrop to Fitzgerald Stadium, so their use here was most appropriate I thought.
- The Cú Faoil (Wolfhound) which for so many centuries was a common sight in Kerry and Munster.
- The Harp to symbolise the pride in traditional music. The Harp has 9 strings for the 9 Baronies of Kerry.
- The oakwoods around the lakes of Killarney.
- The 4 shamrock leaves on the bottom, which are the same as are found on all Kerry championship medals. I don't know where this started or what it symbolises.
At the four compass points of the crest are 4 small crests with depictions of a Footballer, Hurler, Handballer and the 3 gold crowns, which represents the 3 traditional kingdoms that existed long ago in what is now Kerry.

The new crest, while my initial horror at it has somewhat faded - is still poor IMO. Too much flora and fauna focus and not enough that really resonates with GAA followers in Kerry, like the background of the Reeks for example. That's a precious image to all of us and reminds us of the backdrop to so many big days in Killarney. Storm petrels and deer..are not.  :-\ I do like having Sceilig Mhichíl there to be fair.

GAA Discussion / Re: Michael Meehan retires.
« on: December 21, 2017, 10:33:57 AM »
A classy statement from a classy player. Such a shame he got unlucky with injuries. We saw enough of him to know he was a wizard of a player though.
Personally will never forget the performance with Jarlaths down in Limerick against Coláiste na Sceilige or the famous game in the monsoon against us in 2008.

GAA Discussion / Re: Jack O'Connor
« on: December 18, 2017, 11:15:39 AM »
Was interesting to see him on the line yesterday. Didn't realise he was involved to that extent with Moorefield. I'd assume Glavin must have asked or agreed to him getting involved at least, so he probably has added something to their setup.

GAA Discussion / Re: Pat Spillane comments
« on: November 27, 2017, 05:05:06 PM »
I'm pretty sure I've said this multiple times on here and elsewhere but here goes again: Pat Spillane is a clown and makes outlandish statements to get attention and keep the Sunday World brigade happy. He is not taken seriously as a "pundit" or analyst of football in Kerry and I wish people would ignore this kind of stuff to be honest as it represents nothing but what I said above. Some people take Spillane's spouted nonsense as being the view of everyone in Kerry. Nothing could be further from the truth I guarantee you.

GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« on: November 27, 2017, 04:51:51 PM »
Why is this stupid sh*te moaning about the Kerry system rearing its head again?

From the Bunker, you run your county's championships whatever way you want and we'll sort our own out. Thanks. Telling us how many teams we should have in our Senior championship, did you ever hear such nonsense!

Anyway, fair play to Nemo, I got it wrong yesterday and they just ground down Crokes and outfought them. Connolly was the classiest player on view, not Gooch, O'Leary or any of the Crokes forwards. They couldn't handle him and it says a lot when Crokes supposed County-level defender was not trusted to go on him when he was running amok. Nemo really are an admirable club. Even with teams that you think mightn't have the talent of others, they nearly always perform when it matters and give nothing easy. The injury to Kerrigan (looks like ACL unfortunately) means they probably won't get an All Ireland but they'll still make it hard for Slaughneil I guarantee.

An Gaeltacht had the expected easy win over Senans in the Intermediate final. Anybody thinking this result makes some point or is unusual, hasn't a clue. The semi-final was the real final. A game in which Gaeltacht and Mallow had a good even battle until Gaeltacht pulled away in the last quarter. A hammering of the Limerick Intermediate champions, will all due respect, proves nothing. Look at the Nemo v Adare result in the senior championship - does that prove something?

Gaeltacht v Moy should be tasty!

GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2017
« on: November 20, 2017, 11:22:51 PM »
I'd say Knocknagree would be favourites alright. Dromid's main forward got a straight red as well, so he'll be a massive loss. Galtee Gaels just tired, once Dromid changed the midfield and stopped the bigger of the two Childs (I think that's their name) from dominating there. Galtee Gaels were winning everything around the middle, and were firing big strong runners off the shoulder. Dromid couldn't cope to be honest. Then they moved Tomás Curran and Aidan O'Sullivan to centre field, and that stopped the momentum a bit. Dromid started breaking even or better out there, and the tide turned a little bit. They nearly left it too late though, they had 3 goals conceded by that stage.

Dromid have a nice little team though, so Knocknagree will need to be right.

Both teams at full strength - Dromid clear favourites. That's having seen both play in the last 2 years. If Niall O'Shea is missing that's a big loss for Dromid alright but still think they have enough to win it. Knocknagree have a few good forwards but vulnerable further back.

Gaeltacht got over Mallow in Intermediate football, who would have been the main danger really I expect.
Crokes and Nemo should be interesting next Sunday.

GAA Discussion / Re: Tom Humphries
« on: November 18, 2017, 06:54:46 PM »
Ciarrai, when you say you've never been asked for evidence, what do you mean? In our club, our childrens officer coordinates the vetting, and renewals.

I mean that I've been asked to fill and send off the vetting form 10 times maybe in last few years but there's been zero follow the club, schools or underage county squads!

As to Avondhu Star's post - I'd have to agree the vetting as it currently stands doesn't say much - which is why I was alluding to a possible overhaul of the system. You don't want to get paranoid or too PC about these things but we genuinely are too casual about people involved with kids at times in this country..

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