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« Reply #2595 on: April 02, 2017, 11:44:26 AM »
Brexit gets personal

http://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/hbs-iceberger-is-latest-casualty-of-brexit-35584273.html

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April 1 2017 2:30 AM

Ice cream producer HB has said Brexit and changing diets are behind the decision to axe the 'Iceberger'.
With the price of flour expected to rise after the UK makes its exit from the EU, the cost of the Iceberger biscuit is too much for HB to cover. Another reason is the rise of lactose- and gluten-free diets - an enemy of the popular ice cream sandwich.
A HB source told the Irish Independent: "The reality is the Iceberger survived ten years of recession from 2007 - but the double whammy of Brexit and the gluten-free/lactose-free diets means the end. In the same way the smartphone has challenged the media and information landscape, the NutriBullet has more or less finished off the Iceberger."
Last night, a HB spokesperson said there is enough Iceberger stock to last until June.
"It's with regret that we say goodbye to this all-time classic - the decision to de-list Iceberger is one we know will sadden ice cream lovers across Ireland.
"Icebergers will be available in select stores nationwide for a limited time only."
Two weeks ago, the millers association for the UK and Ireland warned the price of bread could rise by 10 cent after Brexit.

Less bread in your diet is a good thing
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« Reply #2596 on: April 02, 2017, 01:28:59 PM »
This gibraltar thing really shaking some brits up. May should be prepared to go to war over gibraltar according to michael howard in the telegraph.

Muppets. The colonial superiority complex far from gone in some of them.

The media in the uk really going down a bad path these days.

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« Reply #2597 on: April 03, 2017, 11:38:55 AM »
This gibraltar thing really shaking some brits up. May should be prepared to go to war over gibraltar according to michael howard in the telegraph.

Muppets. The colonial superiority complex far from gone in some of them.

The media in the uk really going down a bad path these days.

Yes, to defend the democratic rights of Gibraltarians...who voted 96%-4% to remain in the EU.

Spain played a blinder here, wave a red rag and the British loonies inevitably charged. All that they've said was the Gibraltar was a separate jurisdiction from the UK and that they had a veto, which they had anyway. The Spanish haven't said anything about invading, or put any concrete proposal, but the Englanders lost the plot immediately. Then the Spanish also said that Scotland could apply to the EU, which was also true anyway.
if at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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« Reply #2598 on: April 03, 2017, 11:48:08 AM »
This gibraltar thing really shaking some brits up. May should be prepared to go to war over gibraltar according to michael howard in the telegraph.

Muppets. The colonial superiority complex far from gone in some of them.

The media in the uk really going down a bad path these days.


 
Yes, to defend the democratic rights of Gibraltarians...who voted 96%-4% to remain in the EU.

Spain played a blinder here, wave a red rag and the British loonies inevitably charged. All that they've said was the Gibraltar was a separate jurisdiction from the UK and that they had a veto, which they had anyway. The Spanish haven't said anything about invading, or put any concrete proposal, but the Englanders lost the plot immediately. Then the Spanish also said that Scotland could apply to the EU, which was also true anyway.

The Gibraltar thing is interesting because Gibraltar needs the Single market .
The right wing UK media are insane.  I look at the Daily Telegraph site opinion page most days and it is fascinating.
The paper is flogging a sick ideology that will damage the interests of most of its readers. How this happened is the big question.
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« Reply #2599 on: April 03, 2017, 11:56:10 AM »
This gibraltar thing really shaking some brits up. May should be prepared to go to war over gibraltar according to michael howard in the telegraph.

Muppets. The colonial superiority complex far from gone in some of them.

The media in the uk really going down a bad path these days.


 
Yes, to defend the democratic rights of Gibraltarians...who voted 96%-4% to remain in the EU.

Spain played a blinder here, wave a red rag and the British loonies inevitably charged. All that they've said was the Gibraltar was a separate jurisdiction from the UK and that they had a veto, which they had anyway. The Spanish haven't said anything about invading, or put any concrete proposal, but the Englanders lost the plot immediately. Then the Spanish also said that Scotland could apply to the EU, which was also true anyway.

The Gibraltar thing is interesting because Gibraltar needs the Single market .
The right wing UK media are insane.  I look at the Daily Telegraph site opinion page most days and it is fascinating.
The paper is flogging a sick ideology that will damage the interests of most of its readers. How this happened is the big question.

The 1%ers at the top wanted to avoid EU regulations on various issues relating to them.
Convinced the little englanders using boardline racist arguments and the whole thing sailed through.

Quite easy actually.

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« Reply #2600 on: April 03, 2017, 12:08:56 PM »
But at an individual level some of the Telegraph journalists voted Remain and they now spout Brexit nonsense as if it made sense

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/29/voted-remain-delusional-remainers-damaging-britain/
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« Reply #2601 on: April 03, 2017, 12:54:07 PM »
The video is quite funny and a measure of modern video morphing techniques

https://www.facebook.com/BBCLIEFACTORY/videos/1297278163696785/

That said the old Hitler rant is still also quite funny
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a799556/downfall-parody-brexit-boris-johnson-hq/
« Last Edit: April 03, 2017, 02:17:34 PM by armaghniac »
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« Reply #2603 on: April 04, 2017, 12:53:16 PM »
Spain played a blinder here, wave a red rag and the British loonies inevitably charged. All that they've said was the Gibraltar was a separate jurisdiction from the UK and that they had a veto, which they had anyway. The Spanish haven't said anything about invading, or put any concrete proposal, but the Englanders lost the plot immediately. Then the Spanish also said that Scotland could apply to the EU, which was also true anyway.

To be honest Spain didn't do much, it was the English press, and Tory right-wingers that played a blinder by going off on one.

You are correct that everything Spaniards said was true.  If they went any further they could be called out for hypocrisy.  If you have a look at Gibraltar on google maps, scroll south to Africa and have a look a the places with international borders and little places labelled "Espana".

People of Gibraltar might be pro-EU but hardly pro a basket case like Spain.

/Jim.



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« Reply #2605 on: April 04, 2017, 05:23:13 PM »
People of Gibraltar might be pro-EU but hardly pro a basket case like Spain.

I'm not quite sure why Spain is a "basket case", when Gibraltar is basically a racket.
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« Reply #2606 on: April 04, 2017, 10:45:35 PM »
People of Gibraltar might be pro-EU but hardly pro a basket case like Spain.

I'm not quite sure why Spain is a "basket case", when Gibraltar is basically a racket.

A racket the citizen's do well out of.  I know people living there, the see Spain as a basket case because of it's fiscal state, taxes, banks, unemployment etc.  When I last spoke to them last year Spain didn't even have a government due to hung election.

/Jim.

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« Reply #2607 on: April 04, 2017, 11:54:37 PM »
People of Gibraltar might be pro-EU but hardly pro a basket case like Spain.

I'm not quite sure why Spain is a "basket case", when Gibraltar is basically a racket.

A racket the citizen's do well out of.  I know people living there, the see Spain as a basket case because of it's fiscal state, taxes, banks, unemployment etc.  When I last spoke to them last year Spain didn't even have a government due to hung election.

/Jim.

That's terrible Jim. Imagine that...........

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« Reply #2608 on: April 05, 2017, 12:20:00 AM »
A racket the citizen's do well out of.  I know people living there, the see Spain as a basket case because of it's fiscal state, taxes, banks, unemployment etc.  When I last spoke to them last year Spain didn't even have a government due to hung election.

Spain, like Ireland, was growing well but did lose the run of itself with consequent effects on banks. It has high unemployment, but has just had the largest monthly fall on record. It will grow over the next few years and materially reduce the unemployment. As for the government, a hung parliament just means that people didn't vote overwhelmingly for any party. None of these things constitute a "basket case". The people in Gibraltar are in on a racket and may well want to continue this when compared with normality in Spain, but this does not make Spain a "basket case" either.
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« Reply #2609 on: April 05, 2017, 09:48:47 AM »
A racket the citizen's do well out of.  I know people living there, the see Spain as a basket case because of it's fiscal state, taxes, banks, unemployment etc.  When I last spoke to them last year Spain didn't even have a government due to hung election.

Spain, like Ireland, was growing well but did lose the run of itself with consequent effects on banks. It has high unemployment, but has just had the largest monthly fall on record. It will grow over the next few years and materially reduce the unemployment. As for the government, a hung parliament just means that people didn't vote overwhelmingly for any party. None of these things constitute a "basket case". The people in Gibraltar are in on a racket and may well want to continue this when compared with normality in Spain, but this does not make Spain a "basket case" either.

Okay, people are defensive about the term "basket case" so I will retract it. 

However, what I would say that it is not surprising that the citizens of Gibraltar are happier to have their "racket" than join the Spanish.  Also I think that Spain are on shaky ground trying to force the issue given their own enclaves in Africa.

/Jim.