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Title: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2017, 09:47:48 AM
Good to be back home.

Outright Betting    

Cork 7/4
Galway 3/1
Meath 11/2
Kildare 6/1
Derry 15/2
Down 12/1
Fermanagh 14/1
Clare 20/1

Kildare are closer to Clare than Cork and themselves and Down should probably be the 2 favourites for relegation but Kildare punters are a bit too loyal. In saying that hard to call a winner, so whoever gets a bit of momentum early on should get promoted 9/10 points to do the trick. 

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2017, 11:02:23 AM
Galway should in theory be well placed for promotion;  As we've seen in previous years certain counties have peaked this time of year and its got them promoted like Down, Roscommon & Cavan.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2017, 11:18:22 AM
Good to be back home.

Outright Betting    

Cork 7/4
Galway 3/1
Meath 11/2
Kildare 6/1
Derry 15/2
Down 12/1
Fermanagh 14/1
Clare 20/1

Kildare are closer to Clare than Cork and themselves and Down should probably be the 2 favourites for relegation but Kildare punters are a bit too loyal. In saying that hard to call a winner, so whoever gets a bit of momentum early on should get promoted 9/10 points to do the trick.
Meath look cheap. Derry are probably better than them
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 30, 2017, 11:48:55 AM
I don't care how we do it BUT we have to get out of this bloody division this year - I am sick of the sight of the place!  Crucial to the development of a relatively very young squad also. 
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2017, 12:33:00 PM
I don't care how we do it BUT we have to get out of this bloody division this year - I am sick of the sight of the place!  Crucial to the development of a relatively very young squad also.
They hafta get out of D2 this year. Last 2 years they had chances to do so but didnt take them. The team is developing even if last year was disappointing.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: PW Nally on January 30, 2017, 12:33:32 PM
Good to be back home.

Outright Betting    

Cork 7/4
Galway 3/1
Meath 11/2
Kildare 6/1
Derry 15/2
Down 12/1
Fermanagh 14/1
Clare 20/1

Kildare are closer to Clare than Cork and themselves and Down should probably be the 2 favourites for relegation but Kildare punters are a bit too loyal. In saying that hard to call a winner, so whoever gets a bit of momentum early on should get promoted 9/10 points to do the trick.
4 favourites are fairly flakey from game to game and hard to trust. Down very poor last year in Division 1 and Derry not done anything in years.
Fermanagh always seem to play consistently and could be a dark horse if put emphasis on league.
Clare hopefully will stay up and build on a positive 2016.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Bord na Mona man on January 30, 2017, 12:38:52 PM
I don't care how we do it BUT we have to get out of this bloody division this year - I am sick of the sight of the place!  Crucial to the development of a relatively very young squad also.
Division 3 ain't no picnic either!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: FermGael on January 30, 2017, 12:43:47 PM
14/1 . 

Think I will have a wee bit of that.

Anybody got relegation odds ?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: DuffleKing on January 30, 2017, 03:06:24 PM

6/1 and 4th fav is very short for Kildare?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: mouview on January 30, 2017, 04:14:45 PM
I don't care how we do it BUT we have to get out of this bloody division this year - I am sick of the sight of the place!  Crucial to the development of a relatively very young squad also.
They hafta get out of D2 this year. Last 2 years they had chances to do so but didnt take them. The team is developing even if last year was disappointing.

Think it can only develop so far with the personnel available to them Seaf. Badly need better players in defence, more consistent midfield that shows up on all days and probably a better cul baire. A fit-for-purpose set of forwards could probably be fielded in fairness.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on January 30, 2017, 04:30:54 PM
As usual, we'll be there or thereabouts for both promotion and relegation.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on January 30, 2017, 06:01:02 PM
Good to be back home.

Outright Betting    

Cork 7/4
Galway 3/1
Meath 11/2
Kildare 6/1
Derry 15/2
Down 12/1
Fermanagh 14/1
Clare 20/1

Kildare are closer to Clare than Cork and themselves and Down should probably be the 2 favourites for relegation but Kildare punters are a bit too loyal. In saying that hard to call a winner, so whoever gets a bit of momentum early on should get promoted 9/10 points to do the trick.

I've bet the stud farm and the Range Rover on the lads. It's only a matter of toggin out.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 30, 2017, 08:32:22 PM
Absolutely crazy odds on Kildare, anyone who would put money on them at any price shorter than Clare's would need to be sectioned.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 30, 2017, 08:45:14 PM
Big game on the first weekend with Galway hosting Cork. The winner there will fancy their chances of going on a run towards the top 2.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2017, 10:34:15 PM
Good to be back home.

Outright Betting    

Cork 7/4
Galway 3/1
Meath 11/2
Kildare 6/1
Derry 15/2
Down 12/1
Fermanagh 14/1
Clare 20/1

Kildare are closer to Clare than Cork and themselves and Down should probably be the 2 favourites for relegation but Kildare punters are a bit too loyal. In saying that hard to call a winner, so whoever gets a bit of momentum early on should get promoted 9/10 points to do the trick.

I've bet the stud farm and the Range Rover on the lads. It's only a matter of toggin out.
toggin out and doin a few stretches
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on January 31, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
I don't care how we do it BUT we have to get out of this bloody division this year - I am sick of the sight of the place!  Crucial to the development of a relatively very young squad also.
Division 3 ain't no picnic either!

Division 4 is where it's at lads.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on January 31, 2017, 09:53:43 AM
Absolutely crazy odds on Kildare, anyone who would put money on them at any price shorter than Clare's would need to be sectioned.

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Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2017, 01:54:51 PM
Round 1

Pairc Esler, Newry  An Dún v Fear Manach

Down by 2

Celtic Park, Derry  Doire v An Clár

Derry by 4

Pearse Stadium, Salthill  Gaillimh v Corcaigh

Cork by 1

Páirc Tailteann, Navan An Mhí v Cill Dara

Meath by 5
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: JoG2 on January 31, 2017, 02:02:20 PM
Round 1

Pairc Esler, Newry  An Dún v Fear Manach

Down by 2

Celtic Park, Derry  Doire v An Clár

Derry by 4

Pearse Stadium, Salthill  Gaillimh v Corcaigh

Cork by 1

Páirc Tailteann, Navan An Mhí v Cill Dara

Meath by 5

Had a read at the Div 2 thread over on Hoganstand last night, those guys seem to know their stuff, so Meath by 44 .
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2017, 02:05:32 PM
Round 1

Pairc Esler, Newry  An Dún v Fear Manach

Down by 2

Celtic Park, Derry  Doire v An Clár

Derry by 4

Pearse Stadium, Salthill  Gaillimh v Corcaigh

Cork by 1

Páirc Tailteann, Navan An Mhí v Cill Dara

Meath by 5

Had a read at the Div 2 thread over on Hoganstand last night, those guys seem to know their stuff, so Meath by 44 .

I know I am going to regret it but I shall pay a visit.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on January 31, 2017, 03:03:32 PM
I am 100% confident we'll win the first half.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 31, 2017, 07:56:35 PM
Round 1

Pairc Esler, Newry  An Dún v Fear Manach

Down by 2

Celtic Park, Derry  Doire v An Clár

Derry by 4

Pearse Stadium, Salthill  Gaillimh v Corcaigh

Cork by 1

Páirc Tailteann, Navan An Mhí v Cill Dara

Meath by 5

Had a read at the Div 2 thread over on Hoganstand last night, those guys seem to know their stuff, so Meath by 44 .

Saw the Hoganstand thread at the start, thought it was hilarious. Meath will win the AI.


Fermanagh by 4
Derry by 2
Galway by 2
Meath by 3
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2017, 09:06:22 AM
Round 1

Pairc Esler, Newry  An Dún v Fear Manach

Down by 2

Celtic Park, Derry  Doire v An Clár

Derry by 4

Pearse Stadium, Salthill  Gaillimh v Corcaigh

Cork by 1

Páirc Tailteann, Navan An Mhí v Cill Dara

Meath by 5

Had a read at the Div 2 thread over on Hoganstand last night, those guys seem to know their stuff, so Meath by 44 .

Saw the Hoganstand thread at the start, thought it was hilarious. Meath will win the AI.


Fermanagh by 4
Derry by 2
Galway by 2
Meath by 3

Are Down that bad? Not that I don't think Fermanagh aren't good, but to see a Down man putting them down like that.

Will be hoping Fermanagh come up to join us in Div 1. For a laugh with the in laws if nothing else.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 01, 2017, 09:27:33 AM
I don't like tipping them to win in the league predictors as I seem to get it wrong 90% of the time, new tactic is to predict they lose every game in the hope that it guarantees a victory!

In all seriousness I don't really know how they'll do but after last year it's hard to gather much hope. I don't think we'll get relegated but I think Fermanagh probably have the better of us at the minute. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 01, 2017, 10:50:41 AM
While I like the optimism about galway,meath are a bogey team for galway,nine points down at one stage last year, we have them away this year,fermanagh came to tuam last year and got a draw,nothing easy up there.four possible teams Cork, galway,meath and down will all have prospects.Cork wil be minus 4 starters  against galway,it Shud swing it galway way.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 01, 2017, 11:58:43 AM
While I like the optimism about galway,meath are a bogey team for galway,nine points down at one stage last year, we have them away this year,fermanagh came to tuam last year and got a draw,nothing easy up there.four possible teams Cork, galway,meath and down will all have prospects.Cork wil be minus 4 starters  against galway,it Shud swing it galway way.

And we were still lucky to come away from Salthill with a draw!  ;D
We're a first-half bogey team for everyone.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2017, 02:44:03 PM
While I like the optimism about galway,meath are a bogey team for galway

Are they? Must say I never saw Meath as a bogey team. Sometimes we beat them. Sometimes they beat us.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 01, 2017, 05:01:59 PM
While I like the optimism about galway,meath are a bogey team for galway

Are they? Must say I never saw Meath as a bogey team. Sometimes we beat them. Sometimes they beat us.
Meath beat Galway a few times recently in the championship in 2 bald men style but for the serious end of the Championship they are easy to beat.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 01, 2017, 05:24:55 PM
While I like the optimism about galway,meath are a bogey team for galway

Are they? Must say I never saw Meath as a bogey team. Sometimes we beat them. Sometimes they beat us.
Meath beat Galway a few times recently in the championship in 2 bald men style but for the serious end of the Championship they are easy to beat.

At least we've a comb over.
You've nothing.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 01, 2017, 06:36:17 PM
While I like the optimism about galway,meath are a bogey team for galway

Are they? Must say I never saw Meath as a bogey team. Sometimes we beat them. Sometimes they beat us.
Meath beat Galway a few times recently in the championship in 2 bald men style but for the serious end of the Championship they are easy to beat.

At least we've a comb over.
You've nothing.
Only the memories

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Meath and Kildare have been very good to us
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 01, 2017, 10:33:57 PM
Nice relaxed atmosphere in the division now that Tyrone are gone.
They take themselves way too seriously.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 02, 2017, 08:22:30 PM
I'm only after remembering that its €15 in for division 2 games, far better value for money with the €10 games in division 3. Thankfully we will probably be back down there again next year.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 02, 2017, 08:33:55 PM
Nice relaxed atmosphere in the division now that Tyrone are gone.
They take themselves way too seriously.
Down are back after a season away
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: JoG2 on February 02, 2017, 08:40:26 PM
I'm only after remembering that its €15 in for division 2 games, far better value for money with the €10 games in division 3. Thankfully we will probably be back down there again next year.

€11 if bought in advance don't forget!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 02, 2017, 09:00:05 PM
Nice relaxed atmosphere in the division now that Tyrone are gone.
They take themselves way too seriously.
Down are back after a season away

And I think most in the county are probably hoping we don't go back up. A few years in Division 2 is what is needed. The problem is that we're more likely to get relegated than finish 3rd (3rd would be perfect IMO).
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 03, 2017, 09:16:12 AM
I'm only after remembering that its €15 in for division 2 games, far better value for money with the €10 games in division 3. Thankfully we will probably be back down there again next year.

€11 if bought in advance don't forget!

€12 or £11 for division 1 & 2 in advance. €15 or £13 on the day.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 03, 2017, 09:39:41 AM
                     
                                           
                             
I'm only after remembering that its €15 in for division 2 games, far better value for money with the €10 games in division 3. Thankfully we will probably be back down there again next year.

€11 if bought in advance don't forget!

€12 or £11 for division 1 & 2 in advance. €15 or £13 on the day.
Increase in tickets prices? I'm nearly sure advance tickets were 10€ last year.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: westbound on February 03, 2017, 10:34:18 AM
                     
                                           
                             
I'm only after remembering that its €15 in for division 2 games, far better value for money with the €10 games in division 3. Thankfully we will probably be back down there again next year.

€11 if bought in advance don't forget!

€12 or £11 for division 1 & 2 in advance. €15 or £13 on the day.
Increase in tickets prices? I'm nearly sure advance tickets were 10€ last year.

They were €10 last year.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: JoG2 on February 03, 2017, 10:56:06 AM


Newry  An Dún v Fear Manach    Draw

Derry  Doire v An Clár  Draw

Gaillimh v Corcaigh  Cork by 3

Navan An Mhí v Cill Dar     Meath by 2
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 03, 2017, 11:46:06 AM
Galway team named, just the 2 changes from last week with Comer & Brannigan brought in for McDaid & Day.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 03, 2017, 11:59:58 AM
Galway team named, just the 2 changes from last week with Comer & Brannigan brought in for McDaid & Day.
Galway: Rory Lavelle; Declan Kyne, David Walsh, Luke Burke; Gary O’Donnell, Gareth Bradshaw, Johnny Heaney; Paul Conroy, Fiontan O Curraoin; Thomas Flynn, Damien Comer, Eamonn Brannigan; Danny Cummins, Barry McHugh, Seán Armstrong.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 03, 2017, 01:28:39 PM
Passes For All Home National League Games for Juveniles

To celebrate the announcement of Supermac’s continued support of Galway GAA, passes will be made available to all the county’s juvenile/U16 supporters for the upcoming home Allianz League games in both Football and Hurling for 2017. The passes will be available to collect at Supermac’s stores throughout the county.

Supermac’s and Galway GAA will be entering their 28th year as sponsorship partners – one of the longest running relationships in inter-county GAA. The games that are included in the initiative are:

Football
Galway v Cork – Sunday, 5th February
Galway v Clare – Sunday, 26th February
Galway v Derry – Sunday 19th March
Galway v Kildare – Sunday 2nd April

Hurling
Galway v Wexford – Sunday, 19th February
Galway v Laois – 5th March
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2017, 01:53:36 PM
Galway team named, just the 2 changes from last week with Comer & Brannigan brought in for McDaid & Day.
Galway: Rory Lavelle; Declan Kyne, David Walsh, Luke Burke; Gary O’Donnell, Gareth Bradshaw, Johnny Heaney; Paul Conroy, Fiontan O Curraoin; Thomas Flynn, Damien Comer, Eamonn Brannigan; Danny Cummins, Barry McHugh, Seán Armstrong.

Huge amount of options amongst the forwards considering Sice, Lundy and Shane Walsh aren't even available yet. And Michael Daly. Getting the mix right will be the biggest challenge.

I'd say the full-back line will see some amount of rotation this year. Don't think a single player back there is nailed on. Including the keeper.

Half-back line looks fairly settled in comparison between Bradshaw, O'Donnell, Heaney and Liam Silke when he returns. Wonder will they try Silke at corner-back perhaps?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: magpie seanie on February 03, 2017, 02:01:00 PM
Ye rarely are short of forwards in Galway ye lucky hoors. Barry McHugh seems to have had a nice FBD. I've been pretty sceptical about ye in the past but I think ye are moving in the right direction.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: oakleaflad on February 03, 2017, 02:13:52 PM
Would be happy to stay in the division.

We could be doing with picking up points against Clare this weekend but i've a feeling we will struggle.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Blowitupref on February 03, 2017, 08:35:12 PM
Cork team to play Galway.

1. Ryan Price - (O Donovan Rossa) 

2. John McLoughlin - (Kanturk) 

3. Tom Clancy - (Clonakilty) 

4. Kevin Crowley - (Millstreet)

5. Conor Dorman - (Bishopstown) 

6. James Loughrey - (Mallow) 

7. Stephen Cronin - (Nemo Rangers) 

8. Aidan Walsh - (Kanturk) 

9. Ian Maguire - (St Finbarr's) 

10. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues) 

11. Sean Powter - (Douglas) 

12. Mark Collins - (Castlehaven) 

13. Niall Coakley - (St Judes) 

14. Peter Kelleher - (Kilmichael) 

15. Paul Kerrigan - (Nemo Rangers) - Captain

Subs:

16. Ken O'Halloran - (Bishopstown) 

17. Barry O Driscoll - (Nemo Rangers)

18. Brian O Driscoll - (Tadhg MacCarthaigh) 

19. Colm O Neill - (Ballyclough)

20. Gary Murphy - (Castletownbere)

21. John Mullins - (Eire Og)

22. John O Rourke - (Carbery Rangers)

23. Luke Connolly - (Nemo Rangers)

24. Matthew Taylor - (Mallow)

25. Michael Shields - (St Finbarrs)

26. Tomas Clancy - (Fermoy)
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 04, 2017, 08:45:25 PM
Solid start for Fermanagh - Down maybe looking at the possibility of a 2nd relegation in a row ?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2017, 02:17:53 PM
Kildare are on fire
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 05, 2017, 03:18:49 PM
We have no idea of how to organise ourselves at midfield. It's a joke and has been like this for years.

Kildare 3-13
Meath  0-14

Seriously to think these lads have been training since September you'd wonder how they could be so flat. Whatever talent might be in the squad is well hidden out of sight. Bad start for Andy. I don't think he picked a decent team. Brian Sheridan and Eamon Wallace aren't up to the required standard.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2017, 03:41:26 PM
Galway 0-14 Cork 1-11

Galway lead for most of the 2nd half. Cork get three late points to lead by two. Galway score two injury time points to draw level. Cork then miss a free to win it. Draw game.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: inexile on February 05, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
Galway 0-14 Cork 1-11

Galway lead for most of the 2nd half. Cork get three late points to lead by two. Galway score two injury time points to draw level. Cork then miss a free to win it. Draw game.

Were you at the game GBB -How did the Full back line do?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 05, 2017, 03:46:11 PM
It's only the league...
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2017, 04:07:21 PM
It's only the league...
What's another year?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 05, 2017, 04:34:05 PM
It's only the league...

Let's f**king hope so. I can't take another 3 or 4 years of this shite.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 05, 2017, 05:53:43 PM
We have no idea of how to organise ourselves at midfield. It's a joke and has been like this for years.

Kildare 3-13
Meath  0-14

Seriously to think these lads have been training since September you'd wonder how they could be so flat. Whatever talent might be in the squad is well hidden out of sight. Bad start for Andy. I don't think he picked a decent team. Brian Sheridan and Eamon Wallace aren't up to the required standard.

What happened Wallace's pace? He used to be probably the quickest player in the country. Dan Flynn chased him down with ease at one stage in the 1st half.
Brian Sheridan was horrendous, Paddy O'Rourke would have been more use as a target man full forward.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2017, 08:51:22 PM
Meath v Down should be a cracker
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 05, 2017, 09:33:01 PM
League Sunday on now.
Not looking forward to Pat Spillane's assessment of 'MEAT'.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 05, 2017, 11:46:38 PM
Galway 0-14 Cork 1-11

Galway lead for most of the 2nd half. Cork get three late points to lead by two. Galway score two injury time points to draw level. Cork then miss a free to win it. Draw game.

Were you at the game GBB -How did the Full back line do?

Absolutely shocking along with the goalkeeper, Kyne was the best of a bad bunch back there, I really thought we'd see something to give us a bit of hope for the year ahead but I don't know, I know we have a lot to come back in but the amount of basic handling errors and silly mistakes with pick ups and the tip tapping they were at with the ball was infuriating.

On the positive side of things, Michael Daly showed flashes of what he is capable of and Cillian McDaid clipped over a good point and looked confident enough, hopefully they get their chance against
Fermanagh.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 06, 2017, 12:45:03 AM
Don't think Cillian mcdaid scored maybe Patrick  Sweeney? ?
Great to get a draw,we were very lucky,Cork missed a tap over by crowley  to win it at the end who had scored 5 pts already.
Cork will be promoted big strong guys,more to come back,just hope it's galway with them!!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 06, 2017, 12:58:16 AM
Apologies Cillian mcdaid did score and I was at the match!!
Revised betting for div 2.
Cork 6/4
Kildare 3/1
Galway 5/1
Fermanagh7/1
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2017, 02:09:07 AM
Apologies Cillian mcdaid did score and I was at the match!!
Revised betting for div 2.
Cork 6/4
Kildare 3/1
Galway 5/1
Fermanagh7/1
Compared to the original

Cork 7/4
Galway 3/1
Meath 11/2
Kildare 6/1
Derry 15/2
Down 12/1
Fermanagh 14/1
Clare 20/


There must be a wall of horsey money in the system
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2017, 07:04:28 AM
Down and Meat are really struggling to adjust to gaelic rugby league

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: mouview on February 06, 2017, 03:37:22 PM
Galway 0-14 Cork 1-11

Galway lead for most of the 2nd half. Cork get three late points to lead by two. Galway score two injury time points to draw level. Cork then miss a free to win it. Draw game.

Were you at the game GBB -How did the Full back line do?

Absolutely shocking along with the goalkeeper, Kyne was the best of a bad bunch back there, I really thought we'd see something to give us a bit of hope for the year ahead but I don't know, I know we have a lot to come back in but the amount of basic handling errors and silly mistakes with pick ups and the tip tapping they were at with the ball was infuriating.

On the positive side of things, Michael Daly showed flashes of what he is capable of and Cillian McDaid clipped over a good point and looked confident enough, hopefully they get their chance against
Fermanagh.

Little harsh on Lavelle in goal DE. Kickouts mayn't have been great in spots but he made a couple of good one-on-one saves and the goal was Bradshaw's fault. Bad as the full-back line was, the line outside them was equally non-existent; a good 5 places in this dept.  should be up for grabs come championship. Midfield also. Armie, Brannigan, Flynn all terrible in attack. Same old same old I'm afraid.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 06, 2017, 04:58:04 PM
Galway 0-14 Cork 1-11

Galway lead for most of the 2nd half. Cork get three late points to lead by two. Galway score two injury time points to draw level. Cork then miss a free to win it. Draw game.

Were you at the game GBB -How did the Full back line do?

Absolutely shocking along with the goalkeeper, Kyne was the best of a bad bunch back there, I really thought we'd see something to give us a bit of hope for the year ahead but I don't know, I know we have a lot to come back in but the amount of basic handling errors and silly mistakes with pick ups and the tip tapping they were at with the ball was infuriating.

On the positive side of things, Michael Daly showed flashes of what he is capable of and Cillian McDaid clipped over a good point and looked confident enough, hopefully they get their chance against
Fermanagh.

Little harsh on Lavelle in goal DE. Kickouts mayn't have been great in spots but he made a couple of good one-on-one saves and the goal was Bradshaw's fault. Bad as the full-back line was, the line outside them was equally non-existent; a good 5 places in this dept.  should be up for grabs come championship. Midfield also. Armie, Brannigan, Flynn all terrible in attack. Same old same old I'm afraid.

Thought he was shocking to be honest mouview, saw him in one of the fbd games too and don't think he's senior club standard never mind county. Very harsh I know! No matter what Armstrong touched yesterday it went wrong, he had a nightmare, could see him having more of an influence from the bench if he's kept on the panel for championship. It'll be interesting to see how Brannigan gets on this year, made his mark last year after the Mayo game but was anonymous yesterday. Himself and Tom Flynn will be under serious pressure from Cillian McDaid and Michael Daly to start the next day.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 06, 2017, 05:02:05 PM
Any reason why Walsh seems to persist with Flynn at wing-forward? He's not related to an intercounty wing-forward IMO. Is it just to have a 3rd midfielder on the field? You either play him in midfield or leave him on the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2017, 05:15:32 PM
Galway 0-14 Cork 1-11

Galway lead for most of the 2nd half. Cork get three late points to lead by two. Galway score two injury time points to draw level. Cork then miss a free to win it. Draw game.

Were you at the game GBB -How did the Full back line do?

Absolutely shocking along with the goalkeeper, Kyne was the best of a bad bunch back there, I really thought we'd see something to give us a bit of hope for the year ahead but I don't know, I know we have a lot to come back in but the amount of basic handling errors and silly mistakes with pick ups and the tip tapping they were at with the ball was infuriating.

On the positive side of things, Michael Daly showed flashes of what he is capable of and Cillian McDaid clipped over a good point and looked confident enough, hopefully they get their chance against
Fermanagh.

Little harsh on Lavelle in goal DE. Kickouts mayn't have been great in spots but he made a couple of good one-on-one saves and the goal was Bradshaw's fault. Bad as the full-back line was, the line outside them was equally non-existent; a good 5 places in this dept.  should be up for grabs come championship. Midfield also. Armie, Brannigan, Flynn all terrible in attack. Same old same old I'm afraid.
Cork must have been dreadful not to be able to beat that team
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 06, 2017, 05:17:39 PM
Any reason why Walsh seems to persist with Flynn at wing-forward? He's not related to an intercounty wing-forward IMO. Is it just to have a 3rd midfielder on the field? You either play him in midfield or leave him on the bench.

He seems to have a fierce loyalty to both Flynn and Ó Curraoin, agreed about Flynn, either play him midfield or not at all, the same with Declan Kyne, he was developing nicely at full back last year and now has him shoved in the corner. In saying that Kyne was one of our better players yesterday but Walsh at full back was cleaned out.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 06, 2017, 09:11:30 PM
Sounds like Galway were very poor, did well to get a draw. The one positive is that a couple of player came of the bench and made a difference, even without the Corofin lads and the others that were out injured Galway certainly have a far stronger bench this year.

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 06, 2017, 10:12:41 PM
In the past few years I don't think we would have pulled out a draw from a game like yesterday's.  We were woefully poor in the first half and many players were either playing out of position or just don't seem to be IC standard.  Battled well in the second half and went more direct, which suits us a lot better anyway - Daly was instrumental in a lot of that effort.  He seems to have all the tools and hopefully his temperment is improving also as it has been an issue at underage.  I suppose it's only the first league game after all and maybe a little too early to be overly critical just yet BUT I would be hoping for very noticeable performance improvement as we progress through the league. 
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on February 06, 2017, 11:13:47 PM
Any reason why Walsh seems to persist with Flynn at wing-forward? He's not related to an intercounty wing-forward IMO. Is it just to have a 3rd midfielder on the field? You either play him in midfield or leave him on the bench.

He seems to have a fierce loyalty to both Flynn and Ó Curraoin, agreed about Flynn, either play him midfield or not at all, the same with Declan Kyne, he was developing nicely at full back last year and now has him shoved in the corner. In saying that Kyne was one of our better players yesterday but Walsh at full back was cleaned out.
Ah come on are you serious?
We don't exactly have midfielders falling out of the trees in the county.
We have those 2 boys plus Conroy plus Tierney & that's about it.
And Conroy has played a lot of ball in the forward line as well.
So it's no surprise he plays them most of the time.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 06, 2017, 11:23:36 PM
Some scores from Colm O'Neill in fairness. He kicked a few of them from out near the touchline without barely looking at the posts. Not much you can do about that. Luckily for Galway he only came on for one half. Had he played the whole game Cork would probably have won.

Good grit shown by Galway though to dig a draw out. Second half performance wasn't too bad to be fair but going in a point down at the break having had a fairly strong wind behind them was poor going.

Cork worked their goal well but it came from Bradshaw twice failing to pick the ball in the half-back line and coughing up possession to onrushing Cork attackers.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 06, 2017, 11:35:27 PM
Flynn in fairness usually does alright when he's at midfield, but wing forward is no place for him, with the amount of forwards we have there's no real need to play him there either. Ó Curraoin I feel at this stage is living off those u-21 wins. I'd love to see a midfield pair of Conroy and Ronan Steede tried at some stage just to see how they'd get on, 2 strong, mobile players. If Corofin win on Saturday we probably won't have any of them for the majority of rest of the league though so that would be the end of that! O'Neill kicked some lovely scores alright GBB, we had so many handling errors though, it was comical at some stages.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 07, 2017, 09:01:41 AM
I think Fermanagh and Galway might be closer than originally thought.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: FermGael on February 07, 2017, 09:54:10 AM
Wasn't expecting Down to be so poor at the weekend.
Fermanagh were actually quite poor in the first half and hit a lot of wides.

Galway will be a step up but  Down are the first Ulster team we have beat in the last 2 years in national league football so the team should take a lot of confidence from that.

Last year we drew with Galway despite being down to 14 men for quite a bit of the game.
They will be missing the Corafin lads and we have an excellent record in Brewster.  Only Cavan have beaten us at home in league or championship in the last 2 years and we were truly dreadful that day.

We have a very reliable free taker in Corrigan and Quigley is slowly working his way back to match fitness.  McManus at Chf played very well against Down and could also be a significant option in our forward line. The big plus this year has been the form of the Cullen twins.  They have been in excellent form at full back and midfield.  Hopefully Ryan Jones should also be fit for this game which should help with our options from the bench. Our defence has a good system and Eoin Donnelly at midfield is as good as anybody else about.  Forwards are hardworking and when we break, we do it with real pace. 

Again I would be quietly confident about this one.  If we manage to get 2 points from this game or the next game against Cork away then we can start thinking about promotion.  2 defeats and we will be caught up in the relegation dog fight like last year. 
 

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 07, 2017, 10:00:43 AM
I think Fermanagh and Galway might be closer than originally thought.
Fermanagh will be a test of where Galway are at
They were very disappointing last year with 3 draws in a row
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 07, 2017, 01:10:11 PM
I think Fermanagh and Galway might be closer than originally thought.

On the plus side we have been much better away from home than at home in the league in recent years. Our home record has actually been pretty bad.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 07, 2017, 01:27:27 PM
I think Fermanagh and Galway might be closer than originally thought.

On the plus side we have been much better away from home than at home in the league in recent years. Our home record has actually been pretty bad.

Galways last 5 fixtures at home, lost one and drawn 4; Its certainly no fortress.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 07, 2017, 01:50:31 PM
I think Fermanagh and Galway might be closer than originally thought.

On the plus side we have been much better away from home than at home in the league in recent years. Our home record has actually been pretty bad.

Galways last 5 fixtures at home, lost one and drawn 4; Its certainly no fortress.
Pearse stadium is missing something
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 07, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
I think Fermanagh and Galway might be closer than originally thought.
Fermanagh will be a test of where Galway are at
They were very disappointing last year with 3 draws in a row

From the reports it didn't seem like there was much of a change against Cork - still consistently inconsistent.

Only for the fact that Cork left their shooting boots at home it could have been a massacre.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: PW Nally on February 07, 2017, 07:59:05 PM
I think Fermanagh and Galway might be closer than originally thought.

On the plus side we have been much better away from home than at home in the league in recent years. Our home record has actually been pretty bad.

Galways last 5 fixtures at home, lost one and drawn 4; Its certainly no fortress.
Pearse stadium is missing something
Galway people?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 07, 2017, 08:33:31 PM
I think Fermanagh and Galway might be closer than originally thought.

On the plus side we have been much better away from home than at home in the league in recent years. Our home record has actually been pretty bad.

Galways last 5 fixtures at home, lost one and drawn 4; Its certainly no fortress.
Pearse stadium is missing something
Galway people?

 ;D
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 07, 2017, 08:36:28 PM
Meath v Derry should be a cracker.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2017, 12:09:42 PM
round 2
Clare v Down, Cusack Park, 2pm

Clare by 3

Fermanagh v Galway, Brewster Park, 2pm

Fermanagh by 2

Kildare v Cork, Newbridge, 2pm

Cork by 3

Meath v Derry, Pairc Tailteann, 3pm

Draw
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Fuzzman on February 08, 2017, 12:24:47 PM

Pearse stadium is missing something
A roof?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 08, 2017, 01:19:47 PM
round 2
Clare v Down, Cusack Park, 2pm

Clare by 3

Fermanagh v Galway, Brewster Park, 2pm

Fermanagh by 2

Kildare v Cork, Newbridge, 2pm

Cork by 3

Meath v Derry, Pairc Tailteann, 3pm

Draw

Following my rampant success in Round 1 (25%), I'll go again.

Down by 2.
Fermanagh by 3.
Cork by 2.
Derry by 5.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 09, 2017, 08:39:59 PM
Hard to know how Meath will line out after last weeks loss but we'll be without Graham Reilly too.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on February 10, 2017, 05:00:01 AM
That's no biggy
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2017, 06:14:10 AM
Hard to know how Meath will line out after last weeks loss but we'll be without Graham Reilly too.
Desperate Meath are believed to be considering lining out with a computer generated image of Mick Lyons aged 29 playing at full back to scare the bejaysus out of opposition forwards and keep the opposition from scoring. . The hologram is very scary according to Bernie Flynn. Operation El Cid may be the only way to get a few points on the board. Geomancers still blame the Tara motorway. .
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 10, 2017, 09:42:40 AM
Hard to know how Meath will line out after last weeks loss but we'll be without Graham Reilly too.
Desperate Meath are believed to be considering lining out with a computer generated image of Mick Lyons aged 29 playing at full back to scare the bejaysus out of opposition forwards and keep the opposition from scoring. . The hologram is very scary according to Bernie Flynn. Operation El Cid may be the only way to get a few points on the board. Geomancers still blame the Tara motorway. .

Not so much to do with the fairies. More to do with the introduction of drug testing.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2017, 09:52:06 AM
Hard to know how Meath will line out after last weeks loss but we'll be without Graham Reilly too.
Desperate Meath are believed to be considering lining out with a computer generated image of Mick Lyons aged 29 playing at full back to scare the bejaysus out of opposition forwards and keep the opposition from scoring. . The hologram is very scary according to Bernie Flynn. Operation El Cid may be the only way to get a few points on the board. Geomancers still blame the Tara motorway. .

Not so much to do with the fairies. More to do with the introduction of drug testing.
May also be the breakdown of the ancien regime, the collapse of power structures and the spread of chaos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 10, 2017, 05:25:32 PM
Galway team vs Fermanagh

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Renvyle)
2. Declan Kyne (Clonbur)
3. David Walsh (Killannin)
4. Luke Burke (Caltra)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Paul Conroy (St. James')
9. Fiontán Ó Curraoin (Mícheál Breathnach)
10. Thomas Flynn (Athenry)
11. Damien Comer (Annaghdown)
12. Eamon Brannigan (St. Michael's)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Barry McHugh (Mountbellew/Moylough)
15. Seán Armstrong (Salthill/Knocknacarra)

I'd be surprised if that's the team that starts to be honest.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2017, 05:50:13 PM
Galway team vs Fermanagh

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Renvyle)
2. Declan Kyne (Clonbur)
3. David Walsh (Killannin)
4. Luke Burke (Caltra)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Paul Conroy (St. James')
9. Fiontán Ó Curraoin (Mícheál Breathnach)
10. Thomas Flynn (Athenry)
11. Damien Comer (Annaghdown)
12. Eamon Brannigan (St. Michael's)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Barry McHugh (Mountbellew/Moylough)
15. Seán Armstrong (Salthill/Knocknacarra)

I'd be surprised if that's the team that starts to be honest.

Surprised he's gone for the same team again apart from FOC for Day which was a later change anyway. Few lads there that didn't show up at all the last day.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 10, 2017, 06:29:24 PM
Can't see Ó Curraoin starting either, he wasn't fit enough to make the subs bench last week but has gotten over his hamstring injury so well in the space of a week that he can start? Doubtful.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 11, 2017, 07:55:15 PM
Meath vs Derry

Paddy O'Rourke

Donal Keoghan, Conor McGill, Mickey Burke,
Willie Carry, Brian Power, Shane McEntee;

James Toher, Brian Menton;

Alan Forde, Cillian O'Sullivan, Cian O'Brian,
Conor Downey, Brian Sheridan, Donal Lenihan.

No Reilly which is fair enough, hard to pick a stronger team at the moment with lads off the panel like Rooney and Newman injured.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on February 11, 2017, 07:59:31 PM
I'd like to see Michael Daly and Sean Kelly starting to see how they get on.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 11, 2017, 09:51:24 PM
Meath vs Derry

Paddy O'Rourke

Donal Keoghan, Conor McGill, Mickey Burke,
Willie Carry, Brian Power, Shane McEntee;

James Toher, Brian Menton;

Alan Forde, Cillian O'Sullivan, Cian O'Brian,
Conor Downey, Brian Sheridan, Donal Lenihan.

No Reilly which is fair enough, hard to pick a stronger team at the moment with lads off the panel like Rooney and Newman injured.

If ye don't have a better full forward than Brian Sheridan you are in a bad way. I've never seen Meath as weak in midfield before either although when Rooney comes back it will be a big boost. Can't understand why Menton was ever moved out the field and I can't understand why Keoghan is left in the corner as he is a brilliant footballer and an average man marker. Brian Sheridan looks extremely limited at FF too. Would ye not call up Shane O'Rourke and let him sit out training sessions and just throw him in full forward for the matches.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 11, 2017, 10:12:32 PM
I personally see more potential in Brian McMahon who is on the bench than Sheridan but we might take a more direct route tomorrow with him as a target man.

I doubt Shane will be in the squad this year anyway. Maybe he'll get a call up again in 2018 if he goes through this season with Simonstown unscathed. He's been through a lot though. Perhaps he's lucky to be playing at all.

I agree with what you said about Keoghan but we don't seem to have many other strong options in the backs either. Anyway Andy will get to  know more about them tomorrow whatever way it goes.

James Toher could be a surprise in midfield with his hurling background.

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 11, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
Where's Andrew Tormey this year?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 11, 2017, 10:22:44 PM
I think he got a run in the O'Byrne cup but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2017, 10:52:57 PM
I'd rather have Joe ahead of Brian Sheridan at FF to be honest.
Let Brian be sub-keeper.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2017, 02:25:37 PM
Donnelly black card for Fermanagh. Arlene will be gutted
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 12, 2017, 02:42:06 PM
Donnelly black card for Fermanagh. Arlene will be gutted

Not making much of a difference, Galway getting a hiding by the sounds of it.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on February 12, 2017, 02:42:44 PM
Sad state of affairs in down at the minute, what the feck is going on??

Ht Clare 2-07 Down 0-03
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 12, 2017, 03:08:29 PM
Galway back in it, Comer goal, Fermanagh 8 pts , Galway 1-4
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: shark on February 12, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Sad state of affairs in down at the minute, what the feck is going on??

Ht Clare 2-07 Down 0-03

This might be crazy, but do Clare not currently have much better footballers than Down? Down certainly don't have any player at Gary Brennan's level, or a forward of the quality of Eoin Cleary. Clare are better than decent.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Mike Tyson on February 12, 2017, 03:15:32 PM
Sad state of affairs in down at the minute, what the feck is going on??

Ht Clare 2-07 Down 0-03

This might be crazy, but do Clare not currently have much better footballers than Down? Down certainly don't have any player at Gary Brennan's level, or a forward of the quality of Eoin Cleary. Clare are better than decent.

Yes they do. Clare just better. Not a shock
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2017, 03:39:28 PM
Galway are motoring. Kildare beating Cork. And Meat need to perk up.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 12, 2017, 03:42:42 PM
Derry 0-06
Meath 0-04

Half time. Meath shooting is poor. Cillian O'Sullivan needs to learn how to keep his shots down. He's great at making chances but doesn't make them count.

We have the wind so fingers crossed
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 12, 2017, 03:44:43 PM
Great turnaround by Galway in the second half, good to get out of Brewster with the points.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 12, 2017, 03:45:19 PM
Some turnaround in Brewster Park. Galway down by 4 at the break, win by 6 in the end. The beahst with the goal.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2017, 03:55:15 PM
Great turnaround by Galway in the second half, good to get out of Brewster with the points.
I thought Fermanagh would win that match. 2 super points
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 12, 2017, 04:35:46 PM
Kildare very comfortable winners against Cork, would have been a proper hammering if it wasn't Cormac Reilly in charge.
Cork looked very limited and were unable to cope with pacy Kildare forwards while Kevin Feely dominated them in midfield. Colm O'Neill was kept very quiet.

Only February but there are clear signs of progress under Cian O'Neill and Ronan Sweeney is proving himself a proper presence on the sideline.

Daniel Flynn scored an excellent goal that was disallowed for a supposed double hop outside the 45. It seemed a strange decision as play was allowed continue while he carried the ball 40 yards and scored and it was after the kick out was taken before the linesman called Reilly over to tell him to overrule it.

Derry away will be another tough one but hopefully this good form continues.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 12, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
FT in Navan.
Meath 3-15
Derry 0-08
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: inexile on February 12, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
FT in Navan.
Meath 3-15
Derry 0-08

Some turnaround. Was that by and large the same team that lined out against Kildare?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 12, 2017, 05:05:33 PM
Good to see Meath performing well as it franks Kildare's form. From the reports on Radio 1 it sounded like Cillian O'Sullivan did a lot of harm.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on February 12, 2017, 05:12:30 PM
Sad state of affairs in down at the minute, what the feck is going on??

Ht Clare 2-07 Down 0-03

This might be crazy, but do Clare not currently have much better footballers than Down? Down certainly don't have any player at Gary Brennan's level, or a forward of the quality of Eoin Cleary. Clare are better than decent.

Yes they do. Clare just better. Not a shock

More of a general point rather than the specific scoreline in Ennis.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 12, 2017, 05:42:14 PM
FT in Navan.
Meath 3-15
Derry 0-08

Some turnaround. Was that by and large the same team that lined out against Kildare?

Meath scored 3-11 in the 2nd half, Derry got 2 points.  :o

Anyone know what happened in the 2nd half?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 12, 2017, 05:45:35 PM
A comment on Cormac Reilly from the PRoC forum that proves I'm not paranoid when it comes to him shafting Kildare:

"You sort of get the feeling that Cork are only sending out a team these days because they have to. Deeply depressing, Kildare should have won by more. Our goal was spawny as f**k and they should have had another 2 at least. Cormac Reilly gave us all the 50-50s, most of the 60-40s and even a few of he 70-30s. He rode Kildare in all fairness but even he couldn't help us."

I thought he was finished as an intercounty referee but he somehow wormed his way back in.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 12, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
That assessment of Reilly's performance is being kind to him.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 12, 2017, 05:59:49 PM
Top ref.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 12, 2017, 07:23:44 PM
Good to see Meath performing well as it franks Kildare's form. From the reports on Radio 1 it sounded like Cillian O'Sullivan did a lot of harm.

I believe young McCormack had a very good game for ye again today.
Looks like a good one.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 12, 2017, 07:43:22 PM
He has been sharp and cocky so far, Cork couldn't cope with him and every time he gets the ball the crowd gets excited. Hopefully he keeps it up and keeps working hard. He is still under 21 so will probably miss a couple of league games when that championship starts.
Niall Kelly was double marked today and Dan Flynn drags the fullback all over the place creating space for McCormack and Neil Flynn inside which helps.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: oakleaflad on February 12, 2017, 07:47:38 PM
Kildare very comfortable winners against Cork, would have been a proper hammering if it wasn't Cormac Reilly in charge.
Cork looked very limited and were unable to cope with pacy Kildare forwards while Kevin Feely dominated them in midfield. Colm O'Neill was kept very quiet.

Only February but there are clear signs of progress under Cian O'Neill and Ronan Sweeney is proving himself a proper presence on the sideline.

Daniel Flynn scored an excellent goal that was disallowed for a supposed double hop outside the 45. It seemed a strange decision as play was allowed continue while he carried the ball 40 yards and scored and it was after the kick out was taken before the linesman called Reilly over to tell him to overrule it.

Derry away will be another tough one
but hopefully this good form continues.
I would doubt it
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 12, 2017, 07:59:03 PM
The last time we comfortably beat Cork we disappointed the next time out to a team finishing with the letters erry. I don't think I could ever be confident going into a match.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Gael85 on February 12, 2017, 08:01:56 PM
He has been sharp and cocky so far, Cork couldn't cope with him and every time he gets the ball the crowd gets excited. Hopefully he keeps it up and keeps working hard. He is still under 21 so will probably miss a couple of league games when that championship starts.
Niall Kelly was double marked today and Dan Flynn drags the fullback all over the place creating space for McCormack and Neil Flynn inside which helps.

Is McCormack related to Eddie or Paul?
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Post by: FermGael on February 12, 2017, 08:05:03 PM
Very poor second half performance today from Fermanagh according to reports.
Didn't make the game so can't really comment.
To be three points up at half time and then to be outscored 1-9 to 0-3 in the second half seems to say we were second best all over the pitch.

We have Cork away next which is always going to be a tough assignment.
We have also played the worst team in the division in Down.
Looks like a relegation scrap for us .
We should have enough to pull through but I think it could come down to the last game at home to Derry.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Gael85 on February 12, 2017, 08:06:48 PM
A comment on Cormac Reilly from the PRoC forum that proves I'm not paranoid when it comes to him shafting Kildare:

"You sort of get the feeling that Cork are only sending out a team these days because they have to. Deeply depressing, Kildare should have won by more. Our goal was spawny as f**k and they should have had another 2 at least. Cormac Reilly gave us all the 50-50s, most of the 60-40s and even a few of he 70-30s. He rode Kildare in all fairness but even he couldn't help us."

I thought he was finished as an intercounty referee but he somehow wormed his way back in.

Reilly didn't make cut  for championship last year. Horrible ref who always wants to be centre of attention. He was doing linesman in game a couple years(think Roscommon were playing) and signaled a blantant point as a wide.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 12, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
He has been sharp and cocky so far, Cork couldn't cope with him and every time he gets the ball the crowd gets excited. Hopefully he keeps it up and keeps working hard. He is still under 21 so will probably miss a couple of league games when that championship starts.
Niall Kelly was double marked today and Dan Flynn drags the fullback all over the place creating space for McCormack and Neil Flynn inside which helps.

Is McCormack related to Eddie or Paul?

Neither but he is a nephew of Sos Dowling.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on February 12, 2017, 08:21:50 PM
A comment on Cormac Reilly from the PRoC forum that proves I'm not paranoid when it comes to him shafting Kildare:

"You sort of get the feeling that Cork are only sending out a team these days because they have to. Deeply depressing, Kildare should have won by more. Our goal was spawny as f**k and they should have had another 2 at least. Cormac Reilly gave us all the 50-50s, most of the 60-40s and even a few of he 70-30s. He rode Kildare in all fairness but even he couldn't help us."

I thought he was finished as an intercounty referee but he somehow wormed his way back in.

Reilly didn't make cut  for championship last year. Horrible ref who always wants to be centre of attention. He was doing linesman in game a couple years(think Roscommon were playing) and signaled a blantant point as a wide.

Cormac Reilly rode Mayo in the Championship in 2014 and the Rossies in 2015. Every Referee has a bias (no matter how small). It's human nature. Some are better at disguising it or work at trying to be less partisan. Cormac just goes with his gut and rows in with his favourites. :/
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 12, 2017, 08:31:12 PM
Kildare's 09 victory against Wexford was farcical. The free count ended up being 27-8 in favour of Wexford.

Today probably wasn't as bad statistically but it was ridiculous in the different tackling rules both teams had to adhere to. Kildare had a few excellent tackles where the ball was played clearly given as frees against while Cork were able to high tackle, pull and drag with relative impunity.

Kildare's tackling technique and intensity has massively improved in the last year which is good to see.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 12, 2017, 08:32:55 PM
Good to see Meath performing well as it franks Kildare's form. From the reports on Radio 1 it sounded like Cillian O'Sullivan did a lot of harm.

I believe young McCormack had a very good game for ye again today.
Looks like a good one.

All that investment in research and development is finally paying off.

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Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: tintin25 on February 12, 2017, 09:27:20 PM
Disappointing result in Brewster after a promising first half.  Thought the defence in the main was solid but the loss of Donnelly told in the second half as Galway dominated in the middle.  Referee made some really tough calls on Fermanagh and we should have had a penalty, but Galway deserved their win and could have scored a couple of more goals themselves.  Based on what I saw I think Fermanagh have enough to stay up.  Surprised Eoin McManus didn't start as I felt he had a decent game last week and Fermanagh could have done with somebody abit more direct in the forward line.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: JoG2 on February 12, 2017, 09:29:07 PM
Good to see Meath performing well as it franks Kildare's form. From the reports on Radio 1 it sounded like Cillian O'Sullivan did a lot of harm.

He was excellent today especially in the 2nd half.  Against the wind in the first half he was involved in everything.. Superb player
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2017, 12:18:43 PM
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Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 13, 2017, 12:20:45 PM
Dubs are 1/25 for Leinster. Kildare around 18/1
It would be great if Kildare were back enough to deal with the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2017, 12:32:02 PM
Dubs are 1/25 for Leinster. Kildare around 18/1
It would be great if Kildare were back enough to deal with the Dubs.

Seafoid, you're an intelligent guy so don't take this personally.

Don't be so f**king stupid, Dublin would steamroll every f**king province bar Munster and even then they would wear Kerry down!!!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 13, 2017, 12:38:31 PM
The mood is already down in Cork, judging by some of the online talk. That draw with Galway the first day means the Division is much more wide open that I thought it would be. With Kildare playing Derry minus the Slughtneil lads they could leave themselves in a great position where they can try to blood more young lads post U21 championship and still be safe.
Overall the league in all divisions seems to be throwing up great entertainment it has to be said.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 13, 2017, 01:07:33 PM
Dubs are 1/25 for Leinster. Kildare around 18/1
It would be great if Kildare were back enough to deal with the Dubs.

Seafoid, you're an intelligent guy so don't take this personally.

Don't be so f**king stupid, Dublin would steamroll every f**king province bar Munster and even then they would wear Kerry down!!!
It really would be great to see KE winning Leinster.
And then an all Ireland

Dubs can't go on forever
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: lenny on February 13, 2017, 01:38:10 PM
The mood is already down in Cork, judging by some of the online talk. That draw with Galway the first day means the Division is much more wide open that I thought it would be. With Kildare playing Derry minus the Slughtneil lads they could leave themselves in a great position where they can try to blood more young lads post U21 championship and still be safe.
Overall the league in all divisions seems to be throwing up great entertainment it has to be said.

That's because teams are generally playing at their correct level. Imagine if it was like that for the championship. Three levels, senior, intermediate and junior. All teams with realistic hopes of success. Great for players and supporters.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 13, 2017, 11:46:29 PM
Remaining fixtures in division 2

26th february

Allianz FL Division 2 round 3
Cork v Fermanagh, Pairc Ui Rinn, 1pm
Derry v Kildare, Celtic Park, 2pm
Galway v Clare, Pearse Stadium, 2pm
Down v meath ,Pairc esler ,2pm

Sunday 5 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 4
Kildare v Fermanagh, Newbridge, 1pm
Clare v Cork, Cusack Park, 2pm
Meath v Galway, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm
Derry v down owenbeg


Saturday 18 March
Allianz FL Division 2 round 5
Down v Kildare, Pairc Esler,7pm - eir Sport
Sunday 19 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 5
Cork v Meath, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2pm
Fermanagh v Clare, Brewster Park, 2pm
Galway v Derry, Tuam 2pm

Sunday 26 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 6
Derry v Cork, Celtic Park, 3pm
Meath v Fermanagh, Pairc Tailteann, 3pm
Down v Galway, Pairc Esler, 3pm
Kildare v Clare, Newbridge, 3.15pmSunday

 2 April

Allianz FL Division 2 round 7
Clare v Meath, Cusack Park, 2pm
Cork v Down, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2pm
Fermanagh v Derry, Brewster Park, 2pm
Galway v Kildare, Pearse stadium
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on February 14, 2017, 12:21:15 AM
Delighted with our progression from Kings of January to Kings of February, has only taken five years. At this rate we will be Kings of September in 2052.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Hardy on February 14, 2017, 10:20:41 AM
FT in Navan.
Meath 3-15
Derry 0-08

Some turnaround. Was that by and large the same team that lined out against Kildare?

Meath scored 3-11 in the 2nd half, Derry got 2 points.  :o

Anyone know what happened in the 2nd half?

Wind
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Hardy on February 14, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
Dubs are 1/25 for Leinster. Kildare around 18/1
It would be great if Kildare were back enough to deal with the Dubs.

Seafoid, you're an intelligent guy so don't take this personally.

Don't be so f**king stupid, Dublin would steamroll every f**king province bar Munster and even then they would wear Kerry down!!!
It really would be great to see KE winning Leinster.
And then an all Ireland

Dubs can't go on forever

What will stop them? Dunnes Stores goes on forever. It's the corner shop that has to worry about survival in the lop-sided market.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 14, 2017, 10:40:39 AM
The Kildare folk are getting very cocky altogether.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 14, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
The Kildare folk are getting very cocky altogether.
I think.they were depressed 2 weeks ago and now it's mania
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 14, 2017, 02:08:44 PM
The Kildare folk are getting very cocky altogether.
I think.they were depressed 2 weeks ago and now it's mania

That's the life of any GAA supporter. Everything is either useless or unbeatable.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 14, 2017, 03:55:35 PM
The mood is already down in Cork, judging by some of the online talk. That draw with Galway the first day means the Division is much more wide open that I thought it would be. With Kildare playing Derry minus the Slughtneil lads they could leave themselves in a great position where they can try to blood more young lads post U21 championship and still be safe.
Overall the league in all divisions seems to be throwing up great entertainment it has to be said.

Kicked something like 15 wides in both games.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 14, 2017, 04:02:41 PM
Mood in the Down camp seems to be "poor"

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/down-facing-mass-walkout-as-players-lose-faith-in-management-35449381.html

Quote
Down facing mass walkout as players lose faith in management
Declan Bogue
PUBLISHED
14/02/2017 | 02:300

Down's season threatens to go from bad to worse, with a number of players understood to be considering walking away from Eamonn Burns' squad, following a number of walkouts last week.

The Mourne county are already in turmoil after losing their opening two National League fixtures, to Fermanagh by nine points and Clare by six; they are bottom of Division 2 with an in-form Meath coming next to Newry.
After the Clare defeat, a number of Kilcoo players did not travel home on the team bus and there is rumour that their actions could be met with punishment.

This follows Thursday night's training session where a player-walkout followed the announcement of the team to play in Ennis.
Turmoil within teams is not unusual, but mid-season heaves are rare. However, it appears that the feeling in Down could be strong enough that stormy days lie ahead for the playing panel, management and county board.

Already, Damian Turley - brother of vice-captain Peter - Ryan Mallon and Gary McMahon have departed the panel, citing dissatisfaction with the management team.
It is understood that the Kilcoo contingent have already consulted with their club manager Paul McIver on whether to remain with the county, with McIver urging them to stay.

The defeat in Ennis also brought an embarrassing scene at half-time with a county board member witnessed having an argument with members of the management team.
Afterwards, while the Clare team went into a huddle on the pitch, the Down players could not be convinced to do the same, making for the dressing-rooms.

The loss on Sunday made it 14 straight defeats for Down in League and Championship, since they beat Laois in a Division 2 fixture on April 5, 2015.
That win brought them back to the top flight under Jim McCorry. However, after that, they lost the Division 2 final to Roscommon, before bowing out of the Ulster Championship with a narrow defeat to Derry, followed by a qualifiers exit to Wexford.

In the ensuing fall-out, the Down county executive recommended to the county board that McCorry and his management team should be voted out. McCorry survived the vote by delegates, but subsequently departed anyway, lamenting the lack of support from the executive.
Despite having plenty of time to choose McCorry's successor, the board only appointed Eamonn Burns on November 5 - without having a backroom team in place.

Since then, Down have gone through arguably their worst run of results, failing to win a single game in Division 1 last year and ending up with the worst scoring difference in all four leagues on minus 60.
In the Ulster Championship, Down slumped to a record defeat in Clones at the hands of Monaghan.

There has also been disquiet among the panel at the treatment of respected players.
Conor Laverty was not recalled after captaining the side in 2015. Mark Poland, considered one of the better forwards in the province, has yet to make a match-day panel of 26. Niall Madine has not been brought back despite showing good form for Queen's in the McKenna Cup.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2017, 04:03:59 PM
The mood is already down in Cork, judging

Would not count them out yet. Tough start with Galway and Kildare away but looking at their fixtures they could well win all their remaining 5 games. The trickiest one looks to be away to Derry at the end of March. Derry could have the Slaughtneil lads back by then.

Kildare and Galway in some order would be fancied to go up now but lots of inconsistent sides in division 2 so anything could happen yet.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 14, 2017, 04:29:18 PM
The Kildare folk are getting very cocky altogether.

Ewan MacKenna is penning his Kildare Linear All Ireland Champions article as we speak.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 14, 2017, 05:39:46 PM
Mood in the Down camp seems to be "poor"

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/down-facing-mass-walkout-as-players-lose-faith-in-management-35449381.html

Quote
Down facing mass walkout as players lose faith in management
Declan Bogue
PUBLISHED
14/02/2017 | 02:300

Down's season threatens to go from bad to worse, with a number of players understood to be considering walking away from Eamonn Burns' squad, following a number of walkouts last week.

The Mourne county are already in turmoil after losing their opening two National League fixtures, to Fermanagh by nine points and Clare by six; they are bottom of Division 2 with an in-form Meath coming next to Newry.
After the Clare defeat, a number of Kilcoo players did not travel home on the team bus and there is rumour that their actions could be met with punishment.

This follows Thursday night's training session where a player-walkout followed the announcement of the team to play in Ennis.
Turmoil within teams is not unusual, but mid-season heaves are rare. However, it appears that the feeling in Down could be strong enough that stormy days lie ahead for the playing panel, management and county board.

Already, Damian Turley - brother of vice-captain Peter - Ryan Mallon and Gary McMahon have departed the panel, citing dissatisfaction with the management team.
It is understood that the Kilcoo contingent have already consulted with their club manager Paul McIver on whether to remain with the county, with McIver urging them to stay.

The defeat in Ennis also brought an embarrassing scene at half-time with a county board member witnessed having an argument with members of the management team.
Afterwards, while the Clare team went into a huddle on the pitch, the Down players could not be convinced to do the same, making for the dressing-rooms.

The loss on Sunday made it 14 straight defeats for Down in League and Championship, since they beat Laois in a Division 2 fixture on April 5, 2015.
That win brought them back to the top flight under Jim McCorry. However, after that, they lost the Division 2 final to Roscommon, before bowing out of the Ulster Championship with a narrow defeat to Derry, followed by a qualifiers exit to Wexford.

In the ensuing fall-out, the Down county executive recommended to the county board that McCorry and his management team should be voted out. McCorry survived the vote by delegates, but subsequently departed anyway, lamenting the lack of support from the executive.
Despite having plenty of time to choose McCorry's successor, the board only appointed Eamonn Burns on November 5 - without having a backroom team in place.

Since then, Down have gone through arguably their worst run of results, failing to win a single game in Division 1 last year and ending up with the worst scoring difference in all four leagues on minus 60.
In the Ulster Championship, Down slumped to a record defeat in Clones at the hands of Monaghan.

There has also been disquiet among the panel at the treatment of respected players.
Conor Laverty was not recalled after captaining the side in 2015. Mark Poland, considered one of the better forwards in the province, has yet to make a match-day panel of 26. Niall Madine has not been brought back despite showing good form for Queen's in the McKenna Cup.

Our league record of 15 consecutive league losses from 2009 to 2011 must be under serious threat now from Down who have lost their last 10 consecutive league games.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 14, 2017, 06:10:32 PM
In form Meath?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 15, 2017, 12:18:23 PM
The Kildare folk are getting very cocky altogether.

Ewan MacKenna is penning his Kildare Linear All Ireland Champions article as we speak.

Not MacKenna, but true to form our media doesn't disappoint  You couldn't make this up (https://www.balls.ie/gaa/kildare-senior-football-team-359092)
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 15, 2017, 02:26:28 PM
Well, Dinny.
Are they?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 15, 2017, 02:54:56 PM
The Kildare folk are getting very cocky altogether.

Ewan MacKenna is penning his Kildare Linear All Ireland Champions article as we speak.

Not MacKenna, but true to form our media doesn't disappoint  You couldn't make this up (https://www.balls.ie/gaa/kildare-senior-football-team-359092)

2 league wins over Meath and Cork, both who are at close to their weakest state in decades.  :o
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 15, 2017, 05:04:27 PM
Well, Dinny.
Are they?

Sam is coming home.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 15, 2017, 05:09:02 PM
The Kildare folk are getting very cocky altogether.

Ewan MacKenna is penning his Kildare Linear All Ireland Champions article as we speak.

Not MacKenna, but true to form our media doesn't disappoint  You couldn't make this up (https://www.balls.ie/gaa/kildare-senior-football-team-359092)

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Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 15, 2017, 10:15:53 PM
I predict Kildare will crash & burn in their next game.
Ye only beat us because of the nationwide spinach shortage.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/lettuce-and-spinach-shortage-prompts-supermarket-rationing-1.2962245 (http://www.irishtimes.com/business/lettuce-and-spinach-shortage-prompts-supermarket-rationing-1.2962245)
It's a wonder Mickey Burke can get out of bed in the morning.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 15, 2017, 10:34:20 PM
I predict Kildare will crash & burn in their next game.
Ye only beat us because of the nationwide spinach shortage.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/lettuce-and-spinach-shortage-prompts-supermarket-rationing-1.2962245 (http://www.irishtimes.com/business/lettuce-and-spinach-shortage-prompts-supermarket-rationing-1.2962245)
It's a wonder Mickey Burke can get out of bed in the morning.

Our record up in Derry is absolutely atrocious, 1 win in our history up there is all we have I think with a lot of bad beatings. Derry will have had their pride hurt the last day so will be really fired up and will also be inspired by what Slaughtneill have done. Kildare will be up against it for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2017, 12:08:43 AM
Kildare will beat derry by 7-8points, if down going bad i dont know where that leaves derry, its the worst team in 30years i been watching them and likely alot further bck than that! Theres at least 20 men in the county not on between club, injuries; not asked or left that should be on the first 26 of a panel
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 16, 2017, 07:42:09 AM
I predict Kildare will crash & burn in their next game.
Ye only beat us because of the nationwide spinach shortage.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/lettuce-and-spinach-shortage-prompts-supermarket-rationing-1.2962245 (http://www.irishtimes.com/business/lettuce-and-spinach-shortage-prompts-supermarket-rationing-1.2962245)
It's a wonder Mickey Burke can get out of bed in the morning.

Our record up in Derry is absolutely atrocious, 1 win in our history up there is all we have I think with a lot of bad beatings. Derry will have had their pride hurt the last day so will be really fired up and will also be inspired by what Slaughtneill have done. Kildare will be up against it for sure.
Plámás
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 16, 2017, 10:30:27 AM
Down could beat Meath.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 22, 2017, 12:37:01 PM
Galway at home are no great shakes,Clare will fancy their chances,bookies have Clare at 3/1 galway 3/10.have a luck at the handicap betting.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 22, 2017, 01:19:22 PM
Galway at home are no great shakes,Clare will fancy their chances,bookies have Clare at 3/1 galway 3/10.have a luck at the handicap betting.

Yeah was thinking the same about the handicap - Clare seem to be going fairly well and it's very hard to have a whole pile of confidence in the Galway defence.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 22, 2017, 02:00:06 PM
Before ye go lumping on, Gary Brennan is out for this match according to Clare FM twitter, that's a fairly sizeable loss for the Clare side.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 22, 2017, 02:16:45 PM
Galway at home are no great shakes,Clare will fancy their chances,bookies have Clare at 3/1 galway 3/10.have a luck at the handicap betting.

Yeah was thinking the same about the handicap - Clare seem to be going fairly well and it's very hard to have a whole pile of confidence in the Galway defence.
they are a bit like Man City. Good going forward. As long as they score more than they concede I won't be complaining.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 24, 2017, 09:32:16 AM
Meath (FL Division 2 v Down):

Paddy O'Rourke,

Donal Keogan, Conor McGill, Ruairi O Coileann,
Willie Carry, Brian Power, Shane McEntee,

Bryan Menton, James Toher,

Alan Forde, Cillian O'Sullivan, Cian O'Brien,
Graham Reilly, Brian Sheridan, Donal Lenihan.

Subs: Jack Hannigan, David McQuillan, Seamus Lavin, Mickey Burke, David Toner, Adam Flanagan, Eamonn Wallace, Joey wallace, Bryan McMahon, Sean Tobin.

Looking like we are starting to have a settled team now. Ruari in for Burke in the corner. Reilly in for Downey who did alright the last time out of remember correctly but doesn't get a spot on the bench. Anyway we'll see if last week wasn't a flash in the pan especially with the midfield pair.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 24, 2017, 02:06:23 PM
At least the u-21s will be available now.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 24, 2017, 02:30:15 PM
Would be nice to win a game at home, apparently Galway haven't won any of their last 5 games at home including 4 draws.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 24, 2017, 02:34:28 PM
Cork will have a big say in who gets promoted,they shud kickstart their season against fermanagh,kildare away to derry could be a tough one,although they have started impressively.meath too should have the better of down,In saying that down are going to get a win at some stage against who?that's the big question.would hope galway can prevail against Clare,galway at home can be poor for some reason.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2017, 01:19:44 PM
Fermanagh could get a point out of Cork. If Derry are arsed they could give the Lilies a game. Meath vs Down could go any way .
If Galway are any good they should beat Clare.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: twohands!!! on February 25, 2017, 02:18:54 PM
Fermanagh could get a point out of Cork. If Derry are arsed they could give the Lilies a game. Meath vs Down could go any way .
If Galway are any good they should beat Clare.

SItting on 3 different fences there, if not 4 😀

My pick would be Fermanagh to be likeliest to pull off a surprise. Cork don't seem to have properly adjusted to life in Division 2 and seem to chopping and changing a lot with their team selections.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 25, 2017, 04:22:36 PM
Kildare have never won away to Derry in the league.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2017, 04:48:33 PM
Kildare have never won away to Derry in the league.
And they are 4/9 to be promoted
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports/gaa-football/nfl-division-2
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Mike Tyson on February 25, 2017, 07:38:05 PM
Meath must be shit
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 25, 2017, 07:56:18 PM
Certainly in the first half we've been poor enough. Pulling lads back into our own half but not closing them down very well. The goal for Down was a bit lucky but defence should have dealt with it better.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 25, 2017, 08:04:56 PM
Really poor passing into the forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2017, 08:12:34 PM
Very hard to predict this division. At half 6 Paddy Power had Meat at 5/2 and Down at 25/1 to be promoted. But there are only 7 games so consistency is very hard.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2017, 08:20:29 PM
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Allianz GAA football league Div 2 2nd half point by Kevin McKernan Down 1.11 Meath 0.08 17 mins

Maybe it's the race memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAdlc5DAeE
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 25, 2017, 08:27:28 PM
To quote the lad in Robocop
"What is this shit"
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 25, 2017, 08:37:04 PM
Football is stupid.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Mike Tyson on February 25, 2017, 08:38:16 PM
The only thing worse than Meath tonight was the referee. Some baffling calls.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2017, 08:40:04 PM
Down's first competitive win since 2015
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: mouview on February 25, 2017, 08:50:19 PM
Could be more funny results too. Galway well capable of losing tomorrow. Wouldn't put bad money on them.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Samforever on February 25, 2017, 10:34:54 PM
The only thing worse than Meath tonight was the referee. Some baffling calls.
Certainly didn't do Down a lot of favours.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on February 26, 2017, 08:01:25 AM
Yeah he should have played advantage for that point in the second half. If Meath got that goal with the last kick it would be wholly undeserved.

Without O'Sullivan we looked toothless up front. Brian Sheridan got onto a lot of ball but couldn't do much with it on his own and he was well marked throughout the game. Should have had Wallace in there earlier and running in to link with Sheridan.

We just don't seem to be able to deal with teams getting back in numbers. Also we looked weaker and less fit than Down as well.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Smurfy123 on February 26, 2017, 09:10:44 AM
Jesus lads I'm not saying we are great but that's the worst Meath team I have ever seen?
It looked like they were gathered up from a pub and fired onto the bus
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 09:11:36 AM
Meath have played the bottom 2 and have 2 points. They need to pick up at least 3 more points to be safe.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 12:57:43 PM
Football is stupid.
The tactics aren't good enough . Meath need to move the ball quickly into the Microsoft cloud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkzhz4z3k_Y
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 26, 2017, 01:13:19 PM
Jesus lads I'm not saying we are great but that's the worst Meath team I have ever seen?
It looked like they were gathered up from a pub and fired onto the bus

They weren't 'fired onto the bus'.
Andy let them finish their pints first.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 02:21:19 PM


Galway 1-2 Clare 0-0 (7 mins) high ball into S Walsh with a great lay off to Brannigan and it's a GOAL

Tribesmen GAA‏@TribesmenGAA  1 min

Another on the board for Clare...1-4 0-3 #galvclare #allianzleague
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 02:24:32 PM
It looks like wins for Cork and Kildare.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
Another goal for Galway
2-8 to 5 points
Title: Div 2
Post by: FermGael on February 26, 2017, 03:02:28 PM
It's between Cork, Kildare and Galway for promotion.

It's 2 from the other 5 to be relegated.

Fermanagh decided to give Cork a 6 point lead at half time and also Cork had the breeze in the second half.
Played well enough in the second half but had too much to do.

We need 2 wins from our last 4 game to stay up.
Clare at home followed by Meath away looks like the two crucial games for us
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 03:26:59 PM
Tribesmen GAA‏@TribesmenGAA  3 m
 

Free to Clare and it's over 3-12 1-10 #galvclare #allianzleague

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 03:41:04 PM
What a shocker !

Kildare GAA

‏@KildareGAA  3 min

Allianz Fooball League Div. 2
Round 3
Kildare 1-17
Derry 1-18
Full Time
Hard luck to the team & management!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 26, 2017, 03:48:26 PM
Football, bloody hell.
Title: Div 2
Post by: FermGael on February 26, 2017, 03:49:01 PM
Fermanagh play Kildare next Sunday.

Kildare lose that and they are back in this relegation fight
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2017, 03:52:39 PM
Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 03:57:01 PM
Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..
Still in the driving seat though having beaten Cork. Very hard to get 14 points in D2
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 26, 2017, 04:02:04 PM
Was Cormac Reilly one of the umpires?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2017, 04:03:56 PM
Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..

The ref was cheating??  Get real
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 04:04:16 PM
Meath are in the relegation area given that Derry and Down both won
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2017, 04:05:29 PM
Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..
Still in the driving seat though having beaten Cork. Very hard to get 14 points in D2

Don't disagree but incredibly frustrating as the perception is we never get the decisions and it's hard to argue against the perception. Anyway hopefully the team don't dwell on it, young team missing 2 of their starting 6 today so to be leading in injury time is a positive. Big test next week.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 26, 2017, 04:06:33 PM
Meath are in the relegation area given that Derry and Down both won

Still though, at least Kildare lost.  :)
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2017, 04:06:50 PM
Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..

The ref was cheating??  Get real

Is that your interpretation because I never said that.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2017, 04:08:48 PM
Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..

The ref was cheating??  Get real

Is that your interpretation because I never said that.

I used question mark as you stated plain cheating
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: TheOptimist on February 26, 2017, 04:12:06 PM


Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..
Still in the driving seat though having beaten Cork. Very hard to get 14 points in D2

Don't disagree but incredibly frustrating as the perception is we never get the decisions and it's hard to argue against the perception. Anyway hopefully the team don't dwell on it, young team missing 2 of their starting 6 today so to be leading in injury time is a positive. Big test next week.

I doubt it was a square ball and the ref didn't give a free. But even if it was its payback for enda muldoons disallowed goal against yous in croke park in 2011. Doire Abu.  Different team in second half. An exhibition by James knelt. 
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 04:34:50 PM
Meath are in the relegation area given that Derry and Down both won

Still though, at least Kildare lost.  :)
Schadenfreude but they still have 4 points
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 26, 2017, 04:45:07 PM
Good win in very poor conditions for Galway today.  Brennan was a big losss to Clare as we dominated the middle for most of the game and got a decent return from a forward line that was missing Damien Comer.  Defence still a major concern though - needs a little more surgery for the latter stages of the league and later in the year for sure. 
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2017, 04:55:25 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 04:56:46 PM
Good win in very poor conditions for Galway today.  Brennan was a big losss to Clare as we dominated the middle for most of the game and got a decent return from a forward line that was missing Damien Comer.  Defence still a major concern though - needs a little more surgery for the latter stages of the league and later in the year for sure.
The forwards are good when they get the ball and start running at the opposition
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 26, 2017, 05:17:06 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan
Yup, it's going to be a tough one to solve for sure.  Duane and Silke should get a bit of a run for the remainder of the league, need a change at FB and probably in the left corner also.  Kyne is about the only one doing well ish back there.  Daly and Walsh added a bit of class to the forward line today, need to see more consistency from Shane though, needs to deliver more consistent performances from here on. 
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 26, 2017, 05:20:59 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

It must be a while since you visited Navan.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Twice in the last 5-6 seasons I think once in league & once in c'ship.
We lost both games
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: JoG2 on February 26, 2017, 05:50:07 PM


Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..
Still in the driving seat though having beaten Cork. Very hard to get 14 points in D2

Don't disagree but incredibly frustrating as the perception is we never get the decisions and it's hard to argue against the perception. Anyway hopefully the team don't dwell on it, young team missing 2 of their starting 6 today so to be leading in injury time is a positive. Big test next week.

I doubt it was a square ball and the ref didn't give a free. But even if it was its payback for enda muldoons disallowed goal against yous in croke park in 2011. Doire Abu.  Different team in second half. An exhibition by James knelt.
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He was absolutely brilliant today

Kildare robbed,  my hole!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 05:53:08 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

It must be a while since you visited Navan.

Poor Meat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_4PlM85NJo
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2017, 07:41:38 PM
Good win in very poor conditions for Galway today.  Brennan was a big losss to Clare as we dominated the middle for most of the game and got a decent return from a forward line that was missing Damien Comer.  Defence still a major concern though - needs a little more surgery for the latter stages of the league and later in the year for sure.

Nice to get a win at home, been a while. Good to rack up a decent score without Comer & Cummins who easily are 2 best forwards last year and certs to start. Lets hope Shane Walsh can start to produce performances that a man of his talent should. One game at a time, on to Meath next week who no doubt produce a better performance that the dross they produced last night.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on February 26, 2017, 07:57:45 PM
Why is 'we were robbed' always the reflex? If it was at the other end, we'd be praising the ref for listening to his umpires, or saying we were due a decision.
Here's what we should take from the game instead: we are conceding way, way too much.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 26, 2017, 08:09:15 PM
Sunday 5 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 4
Kildare v Fermanagh, Newbridge, 1pm
Clare v Cork, Cusack Park, 2pm
Meath v Galway, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm
Derry v down owenbeg


Saturday 18 March
Allianz FL Division 2 round 5
Down v Kildare, Pairc Esler,7pm - eir Sport
Sunday 19 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 5
Cork v Meath, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2pm
Fermanagh v Clare, Brewster Park, 2pm
Galway v Derry, Tuam 2pm

Sunday 26 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 6
Derry v Cork, Celtic Park, 3pm
Meath v Fermanagh, Pairc Tailteann, 3pm
Down v Galway, Pairc Esler, 3pm
Kildare v Clare, Newbridge, 3.15pmSunday

 2 April

Allianz FL Division 2 round 7
Clare v Meath, Cusack Park, 2pm
Cork v Down, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2pm
Fermanagh v Derry, Brewster Park, 2pm
Galway v Kildare, Pearse stadium

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: SHEEDY on February 26, 2017, 08:22:22 PM
galway, cork and kildare battling for 2 promotion places. the other 5 battling to stay up. think it'll be 2 from meath, down or clare to take the drop.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 26, 2017, 08:34:11 PM
Division 2
Team   P   +/-   Pts.
1Galway3   14   5
2Kildare3   15   4
3Cork    3    2   3
4Clare   3   -2   3
5Derry   3    -14   3
6Meath 3    3   2
7Ferma 3   -5   2
8Down  3     -13   2
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Throw ball on February 26, 2017, 08:38:13 PM
Kildare robbed - another blatant square ball goal, to compound it referee gave free out but overruled by umpires. Either gross incompetence or plain cheating.  A win would have probably made us safe, small margins eh!..

The ref was cheating??  Get real

Is that your interpretation because I never said that.

I used question mark as you stated plain cheating

As I was in Longford I did not see the incident but I would be positive that Hurson made a totally honest call.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2017, 08:49:37 PM
Why is 'we were robbed' always the reflex? If it was at the other end, we'd be praising the ref for listening to his umpires, or saying we were due a decision.
Here's what we should take from the game instead: we are conceding way, way too much.

I rarely blame the referee but the last decision in the game was made by an umpire over ruling the referee. Not only was it a square ball but O'Neill was adamant it was a foul on the goalie too. So instead of dogging out a 2 point win with an average performance and taking that positive we have the usual negative rethoric around Kildare. I am honestly starting to believe people enjoy Kildare losing so just so they can whinge. Last 3 goal decisions have gone against Kildare, so looking forward to getting 3 dodgy goal decisions in the Leinster final against Dublin as these  things even themselves out.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 08:59:48 PM
Why is 'we were robbed' always the reflex? If it was at the other end, we'd be praising the ref for listening to his umpires, or saying we were due a decision.
Here's what we should take from the game instead: we are conceding way, way too much.

I rarely blame the referee but the last decision in the game was made by an umpire over ruling the referee. Not only was it a square ball but O'Neill was adamant it was a foul on the goalie too. So instead of dogging out a 2 point win with an average performance and taking that positive we have the usual negative rethoric around Kildare. I am honestly starting to believe people enjoy Kildare losing so just so they can whinge. Last 3 goal decisions have gone against Kildare, so looking forward to getting 3 dodgy goal decisions in the Leinster final against Dublin as these  things even themselves out.
Is dogging popular in Kildare?

I think you have a decent team and should focus on that and getting promoted rather than going back to niggly stuff that won't help in the summer.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2017, 09:18:16 PM
Why is 'we were robbed' always the reflex? If it was at the other end, we'd be praising the ref for listening to his umpires, or saying we were due a decision.
Here's what we should take from the game instead: we are conceding way, way too much.

I rarely blame the referee but the last decision in the game was made by an umpire over ruling the referee. Not only was it a square ball but O'Neill was adamant it was a foul on the goalie too. So instead of dogging out a 2 point win with an average performance and taking that positive we have the usual negative rethoric around Kildare. I am honestly starting to believe people enjoy Kildare losing so just so they can whinge. Last 3 goal decisions have gone against Kildare, so looking forward to getting 3 dodgy goal decisions in the Leinster final against Dublin as these  things even themselves out.
Is dogging popular in Kildare?

I think you have a decent team and should focus on that and getting promoted rather than going back to niggly stuff that won't help in the summer.

On the Curragh plains.

And I agree and I expect Kildare to park it but no harm in O'Neill calling these things out IMHO. 
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 26, 2017, 09:34:41 PM
It was a very frustrating end after it looked like we had dug ourselves back out of a hole. It certainly looked like Donnellan was fouled - I don't think there was a square ball but the Derry player did go through Donnellan after getting to the ball. The referee blew and signalled a free out while the umpire put up the green flag. The ref then went in and consulted with the two umpires and awarded the goal. It was bizarre.

That said a lot of our problems today were of our own making. We had enough opportunities in the lead up to half time to put the game well out of sight. I don't think any of our players with the exception of maybe Ollie Lyons would be particularly happy with the way they played today. We were too slow to bring in Dowling when Moolick was struggling and McCormack and Cribbin's injuries limited the impact we could have had from the bench. Hopefully those two will be back next Sunday although Chris Healy did enough to suggest he could become an option.

Derry played some good football after half time and Kielt kicked some fabulous scores.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on February 26, 2017, 10:02:27 PM
Thing is Dinny, some Kildare fans think marginal decisions only go against us because they only see what they want to see. They remember Benny Coulter but forget Johnny Crowley, Graham Geraghty and Enda Muldoon. And if you play into the 'we were robbed' script you miss the lessons you need to learn. 2011 is a prime example - yes, the Brogan free was an unlucky call to go against us but we allowed it to obscure the fact that we were well outplayed that day.
Now, we run the risk of letting a marginal call obscure the fact that Derry put 1-18 on us in February, which is extremely worrying when you also consider that Meath could have had 2-16 despite getting slaughtered at midfield. We are an exciting team going forward but if we don't start conceding less there will be a horror show in summer - if you're conceding 1-18 against a far below average Derry team in February, what you might concede against Dublin on a summer's day in Croke Park doesn't bear thinking about. 
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 10:19:16 PM
Thing is Dinny, some Kildare fans think marginal decisions only go against us because they only see what they want to see. They remember Benny Coulter but forget Johnny Crowley, Graham Geraghty and Enda Muldoon. And if you play into the 'we were robbed' script you miss the lessons you need to learn. 2011 is a prime example - yes, the Brogan free was an unlucky call to go against us but we allowed it to obscure the fact that we were well outplayed that day.
Now, we run the risk of letting a marginal call obscure the fact that Derry put 1-18 on us in February, which is extremely worrying when you also consider that Meath could have had 2-16 despite getting slaughtered at midfield. We are an exciting team going forward but if we don't start conceding less there will be a horror show in summer - if you're conceding 1-18 against a far below average Derry team in February, what you might concede against Dublin on a summer's day in Croke Park doesn't bear thinking about.
On the other hand you are just out of D3 and 3 games into a tough D2 with Cork beaten . I am sure that a month ago Kildare fans would have taken 4 points at this stage
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2017, 10:27:55 PM
Thing is Dinny, some Kildare fans think marginal decisions only go against us because they only see what they want to see. They remember Benny Coulter but forget Johnny Crowley, Graham Geraghty and Enda Muldoon. And if you play into the 'we were robbed' script you miss the lessons you need to learn. 2011 is a prime example - yes, the Brogan free was an unlucky call to go against us but we allowed it to obscure the fact that we were well outplayed that day.
Now, we run the risk of letting a marginal call obscure the fact that Derry put 1-18 on us in February, which is extremely worrying when you also consider that Meath could have had 2-16 despite getting slaughtered at midfield. We are an exciting team going forward but if we don't start conceding less there will be a horror show in summer - if you're conceding 1-18 against a far below average Derry team in February, what you might concede against Dublin on a summer's day in Croke Park doesn't bear thinking about.

I get that but it was still an awful decision. Defensive football doesn't suit us - remember Wexford and Westmeath last year. Why are Kildare supporters referencing Dublin we are top 16 hoping to push into top 12 that is our level. I am happy to see us play attacking football yes the balance is off but the attitude looks better although loose today. A win Wed night is more important I was delighted to see Ben McCormack not risked if it means he is  available for Longford. Good management of a young player. Anyway control the controllables.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on February 26, 2017, 10:38:20 PM
Thing is Dinny, some Kildare fans think marginal decisions only go against us because they only see what they want to see. They remember Benny Coulter but forget Johnny Crowley, Graham Geraghty and Enda Muldoon. And if you play into the 'we were robbed' script you miss the lessons you need to learn. 2011 is a prime example - yes, the Brogan free was an unlucky call to go against us but we allowed it to obscure the fact that we were well outplayed that day.
Now, we run the risk of letting a marginal call obscure the fact that Derry put 1-18 on us in February, which is extremely worrying when you also consider that Meath could have had 2-16 despite getting slaughtered at midfield. We are an exciting team going forward but if we don't start conceding less there will be a horror show in summer - if you're conceding 1-18 against a far below average Derry team in February, what you might concede against Dublin on a summer's day in Croke Park doesn't bear thinking about.

I get that but it was still an awful decision. Defensive football doesn't suit us - remember Wexford and Westmeath last year. Why are Kildare supporters referencing Dublin we are top 16 hoping to push into top 12 that is our level. I am happy to see us play attacking football yes the balance is off but the attitude looks better although loose today. A win Wed night is more important I was delighted to see Ben McCormack not risked if it means he is  available for Longford. Good management of a young player. Anyway control the controllables.

I'd rather not. That's 140 minutes of our lives we'll never get back.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on February 26, 2017, 11:13:08 PM
Thing is Dinny, some Kildare fans think marginal decisions only go against us because they only see what they want to see. They remember Benny Coulter but forget Johnny Crowley, Graham Geraghty and Enda Muldoon. And if you play into the 'we were robbed' script you miss the lessons you need to learn. 2011 is a prime example - yes, the Brogan free was an unlucky call to go against us but we allowed it to obscure the fact that we were well outplayed that day.
Now, we run the risk of letting a marginal call obscure the fact that Derry put 1-18 on us in February, which is extremely worrying when you also consider that Meath could have had 2-16 despite getting slaughtered at midfield. We are an exciting team going forward but if we don't start conceding less there will be a horror show in summer - if you're conceding 1-18 against a far below average Derry team in February, what you might concede against Dublin on a summer's day in Croke Park doesn't bear thinking about.

I get that but it was still an awful decision. Defensive football doesn't suit us - remember Wexford and Westmeath last year. Why are Kildare supporters referencing Dublin we are top 16 hoping to push into top 12 that is our level. I am happy to see us play attacking football yes the balance is off but the attitude looks better although loose today. A win Wed night is more important I was delighted to see Ben McCormack not risked if it means he is  available for Longford. Good management of a young player. Anyway control the controllables.

Not advocating a return to Wexford and Westmeath, you can defend well without parking the bus, and with the players we have back this year that we didn't have then, would expect us to counter-attack better than we did those days (wouldn't be hard). Can't disagree with anything else you say, except maybe the top 16 pushing for top 12 bit, very arbitrary. I'd see it as Dublin, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal and Monaghan being a top six with a huge pack of teams below that who can all beat each other on a given day.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2017, 11:53:25 PM
Thing is Dinny, some Kildare fans think marginal decisions only go against us because they only see what they want to see. They remember Benny Coulter but forget Johnny Crowley, Graham Geraghty and Enda Muldoon. And if you play into the 'we were robbed' script you miss the lessons you need to learn. 2011 is a prime example - yes, the Brogan free was an unlucky call to go against us but we allowed it to obscure the fact that we were well outplayed that day.
Now, we run the risk of letting a marginal call obscure the fact that Derry put 1-18 on us in February, which is extremely worrying when you also consider that Meath could have had 2-16 despite getting slaughtered at midfield. We are an exciting team going forward but if we don't start conceding less there will be a horror show in summer - if you're conceding 1-18 against a far below average Derry team in February, what you might concede against Dublin on a summer's day in Croke Park doesn't bear thinking about.

I get that but it was still an awful decision. Defensive football doesn't suit us - remember Wexford and Westmeath last year. Why are Kildare supporters referencing Dublin we are top 16 hoping to push into top 12 that is our level. I am happy to see us play attacking football yes the balance is off but the attitude looks better although loose today. A win Wed night is more important I was delighted to see Ben McCormack not risked if it means he is  available for Longford. Good management of a young player. Anyway control the controllables.

Not advocating a return to Wexford and Westmeath, you can defend well without parking the bus, and with the players we have back this year that we didn't have then, would expect us to counter-attack better than we did those days (wouldn't be hard). Can't disagree with anything else you say, except maybe the top 16 pushing for top 12 bit, very arbitrary. I'd see it as Dublin, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal and Monaghan being a top six with a huge pack of teams below that who can all beat each other on a given day.

Arbitrary in championship terms but not in league. Top 4 in Division 2 represents further progress.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 27, 2017, 12:23:08 AM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Mrs mills on February 27, 2017, 12:30:48 AM
So today I had my first visit to Celtic Park since returning from the monastery in Patagonia. I can thoroughly recommend it for cleansing the soul, getting a different perspective on life and colonic irrigation.
As I arrived in the area I was met with a huge redevelopment site and I thought 'At long last the county board has sold that carbuncle of a ground for zillions and we can look forward to a proper stadium at Owenbeg, complete with multi-storey carpark and retail outlets similar to Tesco Glenullin Park'. But alas, i was wrong and soon I was inside the white elephant, looking forward to be entertained by the football and the wee announcer with the free state accent who gets things wrong for a living. Anyway, I digress.
My nephew, Christiano, had been telling me about Derry's new way of playing, where they allowed the other teams to come right up the pitch until they get into shooting range and then kick it over the bar. Sure enough the wee lad was right and they did it perfectly in the first half. Then, in the second half, Kildare did the same. They must have liked the Derry approach and they copied it beautifully. I have to say that Derry tried out an old way of playing in the second half and it worked too. Now the pitch was as soft as a mouse's underbelly so that made them very tired and it was hard for them to all run 100m up and down and up and down about 40 times without making the odd mistake. But they got through in the end thanks be to God.
Talk soon
By the way, check out this.

http://www.adventure-life.com/patagonia
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 27, 2017, 10:30:03 AM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.

I'd like to see a full back line of Silke, Kyne & Sweeney; A bit worrying that Sweeney doesn't appear to be getting his chance in the corner or perhaps he's working his way back to fitness. Sweeney was our best back in 2015 by a mile.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on February 27, 2017, 12:22:32 PM
Galway have been cut further as Division Two favourites and are now 13/10 from 2/1 off the back of their "incredible" 3-13 to 1-11 win over Clare at Pearse Stadium. Clare are now 25/1 outsiders in the division, a drift from 16/1.

Derry recorded a one point win over Kildare at Celtic Park thanks to a late goal by Emmett McGuckin and have collapsed to 14/1 from 25/1 as a result. The defeat for the Lilywhites has seen them pushed out to 3/1 from 2/1.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on February 27, 2017, 12:31:04 PM
Colm Parkinson has video footage of the Derry goal on his twitter feed. Never a spare ball (as player would have been well outside square when ball kicked) and tackle on keeper looks perfectly legit. As far as I am aware there is no rule against tackling a keeper inside the small square.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 27, 2017, 12:47:01 PM
Not a thing wrong with that goal.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
Not a thing wrong with that goal.

Who asked you? Nose out, this is a ecumenical matter.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2017, 12:52:03 PM
Colm Parkinson has video footage of the Derry goal on his twitter feed. Never a spare ball (as player would have been well outside square when ball kicked) and tackle on keeper looks perfectly legit. As far as I am aware there is no rule against tackling a keeper inside the small square.

Fecking video evidence shouldn't be allowed. I look like a spanner now.

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: FermGael on February 27, 2017, 12:52:50 PM
Dinny how many can Newbridge hold ?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2017, 01:26:50 PM
Dinny how many can Newbridge hold ?

Ha! Nobody knows the real answer, somewhere between 6k and 8k. Depending on H&S I suspect we could get it up to 10k.

Unless Fermanagh are traveling in their 1000s - the attendance Sunday will be 4k ish.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 27, 2017, 01:33:37 PM
Colm Parkinson has video footage of the Derry goal on his twitter feed. Never a spare ball (as player would have been well outside square when ball kicked) and tackle on keeper looks perfectly legit. As far as I am aware there is no rule against tackling a keeper inside the small square.

Fecking video evidence shouldn't be allowed. I look like a spanner now.
Can the perception be edited?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2017, 01:36:35 PM
Colm Parkinson has video footage of the Derry goal on his twitter feed. Never a spare ball (as player would have been well outside square when ball kicked) and tackle on keeper looks perfectly legit. As far as I am aware there is no rule against tackling a keeper inside the small square.

Fecking video evidence shouldn't be allowed. I look like a spanner now.
Can the perception be edited?

No but perhaps it's fake news.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 27, 2017, 01:41:25 PM
Kildare always had a proud tradition of taking their beating like men.
Sad to see them losing this and going down the Tyrone route of blaming refs, umpires, global warming, the free-state media etc.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on February 27, 2017, 01:49:44 PM
Jesus from the reaction I was expecting something at least somewhat contentious. Beats me how there was any controversy in the first place.
Refs are serious unsung heroes in my eyes. Imagine making a routine correct call and then finding yourself branded a cheat all over social media. He's owed a lot of apologies.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on February 27, 2017, 01:58:42 PM
Colm Parkinson has video footage of the Derry goal on his twitter feed. Never a spare ball (as player would have been well outside square when ball kicked) and tackle on keeper looks perfectly legit. As far as I am aware there is no rule against tackling a keeper inside the small square.

Fecking video evidence shouldn't be allowed. I look like a spanner now.

Tempted to fire out an aul pun on spanners and robots but I'll refrain!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: FermGael on February 27, 2017, 03:03:51 PM
Dinny how many can Newbridge hold ?

Ha! Nobody knows the real answer, somewhere between 6k and 8k. Depending on H&S I suspect we could get it up to 10k.

Unless Fermanagh are traveling in their 1000s - the attendance Sunday will be 4k ish.


We had more supporters in Cork than Cork which is a sad state of affairs for Cork Gaa.

I would say we will bring a decent crowd.  It's a must win for both teams
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Rossfan on February 27, 2017, 03:41:40 PM
Everyone has more support than Cork footballers.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: mouview on February 28, 2017, 12:32:50 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.

I'd like to see a full back line of Silke, Kyne & Sweeney; A bit worrying that Sweeney doesn't appear to be getting his chance in the corner or perhaps he's working his way back to fitness. Sweeney was our best back in 2015 by a mile.

Wouldn't like to see Kyne there, too easily turned. Put him wing-back if anywhere. Ditto Sweeney; very good 2 years ago, but I still get the feeling he was playing above himself. Where is Duane these days? Maybe the much-maligned Hanley is still our best bet at no. 3? As bad as our FB line looks, the outside line is still just one game away from disaster. Further up,  Flynn needs to be given the P45 at this point, Army too.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 28, 2017, 01:17:59 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.

I'd like to see a full back line of Silke, Kyne & Sweeney; A bit worrying that Sweeney doesn't appear to be getting his chance in the corner or perhaps he's working his way back to fitness. Sweeney was our best back in 2015 by a mile.

Wouldn't like to see Kyne there, too easily turned. Put him wing-back if anywhere. Ditto Sweeney; very good 2 years ago, but I still get the feeling he was playing above himself. Where is Duane these days? Maybe the much-maligned Hanley is still our best bet at no. 3? As bad as our FB line looks, the outside line is still just one game away from disaster. Further up,  Flynn needs to be given the P45 at this point, Army too.

I still have my doubts over Kyne too but would be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Looked like we gifted Clare their goal on Sunday with a poor short kickout, this worries me even more. I can remember at one stage of the Tipp game last year they had won all 12 of their own kickouts whilst we had only won 10 out of 20 at the same stage, it absolutely killed us. Galway can't make those same mistakes last year but I've lost count of how many keepers Walsh has tried out. Flynn is not a wing forward, play him midfield or use him as backup for Conroy & FOC; Flynn frustrates me, very few midfielders can carry a ball like he does but doesn't do it often enough.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on February 28, 2017, 01:31:49 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.

I'd like to see a full back line of Silke, Kyne & Sweeney; A bit worrying that Sweeney doesn't appear to be getting his chance in the corner or perhaps he's working his way back to fitness. Sweeney was our best back in 2015 by a mile.

Wouldn't like to see Kyne there, too easily turned. Put him wing-back if anywhere. Ditto Sweeney; very good 2 years ago, but I still get the feeling he was playing above himself. Where is Duane these days? Maybe the much-maligned Hanley is still our best bet at no. 3? As bad as our FB line looks, the outside line is still just one game away from disaster. Further up,  Flynn needs to be given the P45 at this point, Army too.

I still have my doubts over Kyne too but would be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Looked like we gifted Clare their goal on Sunday with a poor short kickout, this worries me even more. I can remember at one stage of the Tipp game last year they had won all 12 of their own kickouts whilst we had only won 10 out of 20 at the same stage, it absolutely killed us. Galway can't make those same mistakes last year but I've lost count of how many keepers Walsh has tried out. Flynn is not a wing forward, play him midfield or use him as backup for Conroy & FOC; Flynn frustrates me, very few midfielders can carry a ball like he does but doesn't do it often enough.
The conditions were shocking on Sunday. It should be different in the summer.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 28, 2017, 01:31:58 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.

I'd like to see a full back line of Silke, Kyne & Sweeney; A bit worrying that Sweeney doesn't appear to be getting his chance in the corner or perhaps he's working his way back to fitness. Sweeney was our best back in 2015 by a mile.

Wouldn't like to see Kyne there, too easily turned. Put him wing-back if anywhere. Ditto Sweeney; very good 2 years ago, but I still get the feeling he was playing above himself. Where is Duane these days? Maybe the much-maligned Hanley is still our best bet at no. 3? As bad as our FB line looks, the outside line is still just one game away from disaster. Further up,  Flynn needs to be given the P45 at this point, Army too.
The starting 6 backs on Sun were, in order, Kyne, Walsh, Burke, O'Donnell, Bradshaw & Heaney.  There after we have Duane, Hanley, Sweeney, Kerin, Wynne & Silke available to us once all injuries clear up etc.  Not sure if I have left out any obvious other player but that looks like what we have to choose from for the remainder of the year.  Silke will come back in for sure and Duane should get a run very shortly.  I thought Kerin did quite well last year so he is definitely another option for corner back also.  The No. 1 jersey is still a major problem though - Lavelle is a good shot stopper and his kick-outs are quite good but his decision making at times when he has possession is suspect to say the least!!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 28, 2017, 03:21:22 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.

I'd like to see a full back line of Silke, Kyne & Sweeney; A bit worrying that Sweeney doesn't appear to be getting his chance in the corner or perhaps he's working his way back to fitness. Sweeney was our best back in 2015 by a mile.

Wouldn't like to see Kyne there, too easily turned. Put him wing-back if anywhere. Ditto Sweeney; very good 2 years ago, but I still get the feeling he was playing above himself. Where is Duane these days? Maybe the much-maligned Hanley is still our best bet at no. 3? As bad as our FB line looks, the outside line is still just one game away from disaster. Further up,  Flynn needs to be given the P45 at this point, Army too.

I still have my doubts over Kyne too but would be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Looked like we gifted Clare their goal on Sunday with a poor short kickout

Love to know how many scores especially goals we have conceded from poor kickouts in recent years. I'd confidently say it's quite a few.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on February 28, 2017, 03:43:50 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.

I'd like to see a full back line of Silke, Kyne & Sweeney; A bit worrying that Sweeney doesn't appear to be getting his chance in the corner or perhaps he's working his way back to fitness. Sweeney was our best back in 2015 by a mile.

Wouldn't like to see Kyne there, too easily turned. Put him wing-back if anywhere. Ditto Sweeney; very good 2 years ago, but I still get the feeling he was playing above himself. Where is Duane these days? Maybe the much-maligned Hanley is still our best bet at no. 3? As bad as our FB line looks, the outside line is still just one game away from disaster. Further up,  Flynn needs to be given the P45 at this point, Army too.

I still have my doubts over Kyne too but would be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Looked like we gifted Clare their goal on Sunday with a poor short kickout, this worries me even more. I can remember at one stage of the Tipp game last year they had won all 12 of their own kickouts whilst we had only won 10 out of 20 at the same stage, it absolutely killed us. Galway can't make those same mistakes last year but I've lost count of how many keepers Walsh has tried out. Flynn is not a wing forward, play him midfield or use him as backup for Conroy & FOC; Flynn frustrates me, very few midfielders can carry a ball like he does but doesn't do it often enough.
Very true. I think a lot of people don't realise just how quick Flynn is when he carries the ball.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on February 28, 2017, 04:59:28 PM
We have no midfield or half-back line so you should wipe us in the middle third.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on February 28, 2017, 06:19:00 PM
Very true. Where are the personnel going to come from for those defensive changes is the question?
I think we're decent enough from the half back line up in terms of squad personnel.
In terms of goalkeeper and fullback line - we're not strong to be brutally honest.
A good win today though.
Meath next week is a huge game now.
Meath are no world beaters but it's the type of game we have become used to losing after a few wins.
Never easy to win in Navan

Good win today but agree, the full back line and goalie were a serious weak link. Lavelle made about 3 point blank saves but he also caused the 3 of them with daft kick outs, arsing about in front of goal and trying to carry the ball out of his own defence, mad stuff. When Clare ran at them at pace we were in trouble, Bradshaw was excellent going forward but that left a massive hole in our half back line that bigger teams will exploit. I'd like to see Johnny Duane given a shot at no. 6, push Bradshaw out on the wing and Liam Silke and Cathal Sweeney in the corners. Sweeney came on in the forward line again today which is a bit puzzling when he was one of our best players 2 years ago and was seriously missed last year.

I'd like to see a full back line of Silke, Kyne & Sweeney; A bit worrying that Sweeney doesn't appear to be getting his chance in the corner or perhaps he's working his way back to fitness. Sweeney was our best back in 2015 by a mile.

Wouldn't like to see Kyne there, too easily turned. Put him wing-back if anywhere. Ditto Sweeney; very good 2 years ago, but I still get the feeling he was playing above himself. Where is Duane these days? Maybe the much-maligned Hanley is still our best bet at no. 3? As bad as our FB line looks, the outside line is still just one game away from disaster. Further up,  Flynn needs to be given the P45 at this point, Army too.

I still have my doubts over Kyne too but would be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Looked like we gifted Clare their goal on Sunday with a poor short kickout, this worries me even more. I can remember at one stage of the Tipp game last year they had won all 12 of their own kickouts whilst we had only won 10 out of 20 at the same stage, it absolutely killed us. Galway can't make those same mistakes last year but I've lost count of how many keepers Walsh has tried out. Flynn is not a wing forward, play him midfield or use him as backup for Conroy & FOC; Flynn frustrates me, very few midfielders can carry a ball like he does but doesn't do it often enough.
Very true. I think a lot of people don't realise just how quick Flynn is when he carries the ball.

For a lad his size he has some speed alright, he's lost at wing forward though, he's a midfielder not a forward.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 02, 2017, 03:59:17 PM
It will be interesting to see how Down get on the next day. And will Kildare have the mojo back after the last minute lapse par excellence?  Meath need to get points. They are in danger of emulating Armagh.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on March 02, 2017, 08:46:47 PM
Teams from 2014. Probably one of the last games Cillian O'Sullivan played before getting injured. Harnan is back for this one hopefully. Dalton walked off the team this winter if I'm not mistaken. Don't know about Tormey. Shane is back at club level, I don't know about Carroll but I think Mick O' Dowd dropped him last year.

Meath:
Paddy O'Rourke;
Donal Keogan (0-1), Kevin Reilly, Michael Burke (0-1);
Padraic Harnan, Bryan Menton (0-1), David Dalton;

Andrew Tormey (0-2), Shane O'Rourke (0-1);

Cillian O'Sullivan (1-1), Damien Carroll (0-1), Graham Reilly (0-3);
Eamon Wallace (0-2), Stephen Bray (1-0), Michael Newman (1-2).

Subs -
David Bray (0-1) for Stephen Bray (51),
David Larkin (0-1) for Wallace (64),
Paddy Gilsenan (0-1) for G Reilly (66).




Galway:
Manus Breathnach;
Donal O'Neill, Finian Hanley, Johnny Duane;
Paul Varley, Joss Moore, Sean Denvir;

Greg Higgins, Fiontan O'Curraoin;

Gary Sice (1-2), Sean Armstrong (1-2, 0-1f), Paul Conroy (0-4, 2fs);
Shane Walsh, Michael Martin (1-1), James Kavanagh (0-1).

Subs:
Thomas Flynn (1-0) for O Curraoin (ht),
Eoin Concannon for Armstrong (black card 41),
Cathal Mulryan for Denvir (48),
Damien Comer for Walsh (51),
Adrian Varley (0-1) for Martin (57).
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on March 02, 2017, 10:03:18 PM
Sunday 5 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 4
Kildare v Fermanagh, Newbridge, 1pm
Clare v Cork, Cusack Park, 2pm
Meath v Galway, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm
Derry v down owenbeg

Would go for kildare, cork, draw, derry.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: From the Bunker on March 04, 2017, 10:42:27 AM
Hope this has a happy ending! Think he is foolish at his age  to risk himself at this stage.

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131 (http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131)

Galway's Allianz FL Division 2 promotion bid is set to be boosted by the return of Michael Meehan to the inter-county scene.

A persistent ankle injury forced the former captain to quit the Tribesmen three years ago but The Irish Independent reports that the 32-year-old took part in training with Kevin Walsh's squad this week.

The availability of the talented Caltra clubman would greatly strengthen Walsh's hand as last year's Connacht champions seek to secure a seat at the top table of the league.

Galway will look to preserve their unbeaten record when they travel to Pairc Tailteann to take on Meath tomorrow.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 04, 2017, 11:07:33 AM
Hope this has a happy ending! Think he is foolish at his age  to risk himself at this stage.

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131 (http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131)

Galway's Allianz FL Division 2 promotion bid is set to be boosted by the return of Michael Meehan to the inter-county scene.

A persistent ankle injury forced the former captain to quit the Tribesmen three years ago but The Irish Independent reports that the 32-year-old took part in training with Kevin Walsh's squad this week.

The availability of the talented Caltra clubman would greatly strengthen Walsh's hand as last year's Connacht champions seek to secure a seat at the top table of the league.

Galway will look to preserve their unbeaten record when they travel to Pairc Tailteann to take on Meath tomorrow.

I really can't see the thinking behind this at all, yes in his day when he was fit he was absolutely lethal but that's a few years ago now, things have moved on and last I heard Mike was just about able to line out for Caltra with his dodgy ankles being the way they are. Strange move.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Manning18 on March 04, 2017, 11:08:09 AM

Very true. I think a lot of people don't realise just how quick Flynn is when he carries the ball.

Indeed. Used to be a sprinter when he was younger. I think it should be horses for courses when it comes to him and FOC in midfield. Play FOC against teams with no ball winners like Sligo & Ros and let him mop kickouts. Against athletic ball playing midfielders such as Mayo or even way down the line, Dublin, Flynn needs to be in there. He needs to be midfield or nothing. People are too quick to get on his back after the good year last year. Winter football doesnt suit him and he's obviously low on confidence at the moment
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Manning18 on March 04, 2017, 11:09:25 AM
Hope this has a happy ending! Think he is foolish at his age  to risk himself at this stage.

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131 (http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131)

Galway's Allianz FL Division 2 promotion bid is set to be boosted by the return of Michael Meehan to the inter-county scene.

A persistent ankle injury forced the former captain to quit the Tribesmen three years ago but The Irish Independent reports that the 32-year-old took part in training with Kevin Walsh's squad this week.

The availability of the talented Caltra clubman would greatly strengthen Walsh's hand as last year's Connacht champions seek to secure a seat at the top table of the league.

Galway will look to preserve their unbeaten record when they travel to Pairc Tailteann to take on Meath tomorrow.

I really can't see the thinking behind this at all, yes in his day when he was fit he was absolutely lethal but that's a few years ago now, things have moved on and last I heard Mike was just about able to line out for Caltra with his dodgy ankles being the way they are. Strange move.

Based on his (few) club performances the last few years he's more than entitled to be in there. What exactly is the downside?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 04, 2017, 11:53:33 AM
Hope this has a happy ending! Think he is foolish at his age  to risk himself at this stage.

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131 (http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267131)

Galway's Allianz FL Division 2 promotion bid is set to be boosted by the return of Michael Meehan to the inter-county scene.

A persistent ankle injury forced the former captain to quit the Tribesmen three years ago but The Irish Independent reports that the 32-year-old took part in training with Kevin Walsh's squad this week.

The availability of the talented Caltra clubman would greatly strengthen Walsh's hand as last year's Connacht champions seek to secure a seat at the top table of the league.

Galway will look to preserve their unbeaten record when they travel to Pairc Tailteann to take on Meath tomorrow.

I really can't see the thinking behind this at all, yes in his day when he was fit he was absolutely lethal but that's a few years ago now, things have moved on and last I heard Mike was just about able to line out for Caltra with his dodgy ankles being the way they are. Strange move.

Based on his (few) club performances the last few years he's more than entitled to be in there. What exactly is the downside?

Hopefully it all goes as well as possible for him, nobody deserves it more but to go from just about being able to line out for his club to being back on the intercounty panel is a serious jump. He's said himself he was just about able to cope with club football with the ankles. He'll be a serious option to spring off the bench if it all works out but I still think it's a surprising development, maybe strange was the wrong word!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 04, 2017, 04:45:25 PM
Sunday 5 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 4
Kildare v Fermanagh, Newbridge, 1pm
Clare v Cork, Cusack Park, 2pm
Meath v Galway, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm
Derry v down owenbeg

Would go for kildare, cork, draw, derry.

Draw
Cork
Galway
Derry
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 05, 2017, 03:41:38 PM
It looks like today is moving day in Division 2.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2017, 04:07:24 PM
How bad are Cork??
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 05, 2017, 04:29:46 PM
Not as bad as Derry!!!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 05, 2017, 04:33:07 PM
Crazy how inconsistent teams are in this division, I can't imagine it is because teams are priming themselves for the championship as none of them apart from Galway have any hope of achieving anything.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 05, 2017, 04:53:44 PM
Very disappointing first half performance by Galway in Navan after the first 10 minutes, the better team in the 2nd half but didn't see it out when putting themselves up by 3 with only 10 left. Instead of pushing on we're now dragged back into the pack, will have to win out to ensure a top two place with no further room for error left really.
Same issues of inconsistent level of performance within matches, it's as been like this for years, losing to teams that they should be beating etc. 
It's so hard to get a read on players even within a game, some really good plays coupled with some inexplicable mistakes from one move to the next. There's the guts of something there but results like today are what keeps them in the mediocre category all the time.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 05, 2017, 05:07:56 PM
Frustrating to say the least, bad start but came back well, put themselves in a winning position but instead of pushing forward they concede a goal and end up losing by a point. Can't afford to drop points anywhere else now, it'll probably come down to the last game against Kildare again to see who gets the top spots.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 05, 2017, 05:09:45 PM
Very disappointing first half performance by Galway in Navan after the first 10 minutes, the better team in the 2nd half but didn't see it out when putting themselves up by 3 with only 10 left. Instead of pushing on we're now dragged back into the pack, will have to win out to ensure a top two place with no further room for error left really.
Same issues of inconsistent level of performance within matches, it's as been like this for years, losing to teams that they should be beating etc. 
It's so hard to get a read on players even within a game, some really good plays coupled with some inexplicable mistakes from one move to the next. There's the guts of something there but results like today are what keeps them in the mediocre category all the time.
100% agree.
I was expecting us to lose this game & not because Meath are any great shakes.
It's typical of us when we get a few decent results that we go out then and lose to average teams.
We just don't have the consistency to be a threat at AI level.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 05, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
Our destiny is still in our own hands all the same.
3 games left (2 at home) - if we win them all we top the group.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 05, 2017, 05:17:06 PM
Our destiny is still in our own hands all the same.
3 games left (2 at home) - if we win them all we top the group.

Damien Comer's injury must be worse than first thought, wasn't even on the bench today I don't think, we'll need him firing on all cylinders for the next few games. I'm also wondering about Barry McHugh at this stage, he's lethal from frees but does nothing else from play, I also think it's time to give Mike Farragher a run, we know what Gary Sice and Johnny Heaney can do.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 05, 2017, 05:20:42 PM
Comer won't be back for the next few games from what I hear.
Think it's a 4-6 weeks injury
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 05, 2017, 05:24:12 PM
9 points would probably be enough to go up
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 05, 2017, 05:30:28 PM
Comer won't be back for the next few games from what I hear.
Think it's a 4-6 weeks injury

Feck anyway, you'd know he wasn't out there today, there's no real target man in there without him. Both Mike Farragher and Ian Burke are well able to win their own ball but we'll have to see if they get their chance in the next few games.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on March 05, 2017, 05:36:42 PM
Very disappointing first half performance by Galway in Navan after the first 10 minutes, the better team in the 2nd half but didn't see it out when putting themselves up by 3 with only 10 left. Instead of pushing on we're now dragged back into the pack, will have to win out to ensure a top two place with no further room for error left really.
Same issues of inconsistent level of performance within matches, it's as been like this for years, losing to teams that they should be beating etc. 
It's so hard to get a read on players even within a game, some really good plays coupled with some inexplicable mistakes from one move to the next. There's the guts of something there but results like today are what keeps them in the mediocre category all the time.

You could be describing Meath with that comment as well. We mix the sublime with the dreadful in nearly every game. We just came out the right side of things this week. No way of predicting what way we'll play in Cork.

Will take the win of course. Cillian O'Sullivan is the one that seems to make the biggest difference for us. Hopefully his nose will be back to normal for the next game.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 05, 2017, 05:37:00 PM
Our destiny is still in our own hands all the same.
3 games left (2 at home) - if we win them all we top the group.

Damien Comer's injury must be worse than first thought, wasn't even on the bench today I don't think, we'll need him firing on all cylinders for the next few games. I'm also wondering about Barry McHugh at this stage, he's lethal from frees but does nothing else from play, I also think it's time to give Mike Farragher a run, we know what Gary Sice and Johnny Heaney can do.

McHugh in fairness hit a lovely point from play in the first half but I can see where you are coming from.
Having seen the Clare and the Meath matches, even with that small sample size, I would say that he is hands down the best placed ball striker I've seen in a Galway jersey for a long time, seriously impressive. He has a really accurate and consistent technique, he's worth a place to see if he can improve a bit more in general play, physically he is far slighter than most of the squad though and I would wonder how he will hold up in a championship match where the physical stakes will be seriously upped.

Lundy was terrible today and only middling against Clare, in comparison Cummins made a huge difference when he was introduced. Daly has serious potential but his decision making on the ball at times is, naturally enough for his experience level, suspect.

Comer is a massive loss if he is out for the rest of the league.
Title: Fermanagh
Post by: FermGael on March 05, 2017, 05:37:32 PM
Shocking defensive display from.Fermanagh today.
2 goals from quick frees when our players were arguing with the referee, one that the keeper should have dealt with and the other when we got turned over when we were in possession of the ball.
Very very poor .

Clare at home next and it's a must win.  If we don't we are relegated.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 05, 2017, 05:45:15 PM
Our destiny is still in our own hands all the same.
3 games left (2 at home) - if we win them all we top the group.

Damien Comer's injury must be worse than first thought, wasn't even on the bench today I don't think, we'll need him firing on all cylinders for the next few games. I'm also wondering about Barry McHugh at this stage, he's lethal from frees but does nothing else from play, I also think it's time to give Mike Farragher a run, we know what Gary Sice and Johnny Heaney can do.

McHugh in fairness hit a lovely point from play in the first half but I can see where you are coming from.
Having seen the Clare and the Kildare matches, even with that small sample size, I would say that he is hands down the best placed ball striker I've seen in a Galway jersey for a long time, seriously impressive. He has a really accurate and consistent technique, he's worth a place to see if he can improve a bit more in general play, physically he is far slighter than most of the squad though and I would wonder how he will hold up in a championship match where the physical stakes will be seriously upped.

Lundy was terrible today and only middling against Clare, in comparison Cummins made a huge difference when he was introduced. Daly has serious potential but his decision making on the ball at times is, naturally enough for his experience level, suspect.

Comer is a massive loss if he is out for the rest of the league.

Oh he's a fantastic free taker, no argument there, just don't know if we can afford to carry him on that alone, especially when our wing forwards tend to play fairly deep so don't score too much. Bit harsh on Lundy, thought he has a great game against Clare, granted I didn't see the game today but hopefully he'll have better days. Shane Walsh showed bits of his ability last week but didn't seem to be too prominent today, same with Brannigan. Lots to work on before the next game in
Tuam. Double header with the ladies game I believe.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on March 05, 2017, 06:19:32 PM
Table now reads:

1. Kildare        6
2. Galway.       5
3. Clare.          5
4. Meath.         4
5. Down.          4
6. Cork            3
7. Derry           3
8. Fermanagh    2

We've got Cork, Fermanagh and Clare to go. While getting all 6 points isn't impossible I can easily see us losing any of them. We'll probably pick up 3 points based on current form and miss the number 2 spot. Perhaps get a draw in Cork, win in Fermanagh and lose to Clare who are showing good form. But it's within our ability to get all 6 if the lads are firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: cornetto on March 05, 2017, 06:39:33 PM
Allianz FL Division 2 round 5
Down v Kildare, Pairc Esler,7pm - eir Sport
Sunday 19 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 5
Cork v Meath, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2pm
Fermanagh v Clare, Brewster Park, 2pm
Galway v Derry, Tuam 2pm

Sunday 26 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 6
Derry v Cork, Celtic Park, 3pm
Meath v Fermanagh, Pairc Tailteann, 3pm
Down v Galway, Pairc Esler, 3pm
Kildare v Clare, Newbridge, 3.15pmSunday

 2 April

Allianz FL Division 2 round 7
Clare v Meath, Cusack Park, 2pm
Cork v Down, Pairc Ui Rinn, 2pm
Fermanagh v Derry, Brewster Park, 2pm
Galway v Kildare, Pearse stadium
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: omagh_gael on March 05, 2017, 06:58:47 PM
Wtf is going on with Derry? Just read their match report and Down were 1-10 to no score up at one point in the first half. That is shocking against a team with Down's recent record.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 05, 2017, 07:06:59 PM
I can't make head nor tail of this crazy division.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 05, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
Not seen any of the league games so relying on reports etc, I'd be prepared to give McHugh plenty more time given its his first year on the panel and the disadvantages that brings.

We're incredibly frustrating, looked like we were going to win that game comfortably with ten mins to go. Galway had kicked 10 out of the previous 12 points and were in total control.  Comer is a huge loss, he's our best player and the best forward in the province.

I think 9 points will be enough for promotion so 2 wins from 3 should do it as I just don't see any of Cork, Meath, Down, Derry, & Clare winning all their remaining games. I think if we were level on 9 points with Clare we'd go up based on the head to head.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 05, 2017, 08:06:10 PM
Not seen any of the league games so relying on reports etc, I'd be prepared to give McHugh plenty more time given its his first year on the panel and the disadvantages that brings.

We're incredibly frustrating, looked like we were going to win that game comfortably with ten mins to go. Galway had kicked 10 out of the previous 12 points and were in total control.  Comer is a huge loss, he's our best player and the best forward in the province.

I think 9 points will be enough for promotion so 2 wins from 3 should do it as I just don't see any of Cork, Meath, Down, Derry, & Clare winning all their remaining games. I think if we were level on 9 points with Clare we'd go up based on the head to head.
Do you base that on match reports also?

Division two looks like a bunch of average inconsistent teams and whichever are the two lucky teams to gain promotion will unlikely stay up next year.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 06, 2017, 12:31:26 PM
Yesterday was like like one of those slot machines where you put in money and try to get it to push other money down levels and nothing really happens. The teams are very bunched.  Down are looking okay. Meath were lucky.  Fermanagh need a win. Cork must be gone at this stage. Kildare v Galway will be interesting.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 06, 2017, 01:39:57 PM
'Meath were lucky'.  ;D
Seafóid, I don't want to hear any more trash-talk out of you.
Take your beating like a man.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 06, 2017, 01:56:26 PM
'Meath were lucky'.  ;D
Seafóid, I don't want to hear any more trash-talk out of you.
Take your beating like a man.

Jack London, the old Irish Press GAA correspondent, used to point out that throwing a bone to a dog is not charity
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 06, 2017, 03:19:38 PM
Yesterday was like like one of those slot machines where you put in money and try to get it to push other money down levels and nothing really happens. The teams are very bunched.  Down are looking okay. Meath were lucky.  Fermanagh need a win. Cork must be gone at this stage. Kildare v Galway will be interesting.

If and a big if Kildare beat Clare and Down we will be already promoted before this game. However I would like to be going to Galway with something to play for as it's just the test this young team need and our performance could good give a indication of our direction.

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 06, 2017, 03:29:54 PM
The Galway game might just be a matter of toggin out.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 07, 2017, 11:42:15 AM
Any notion of how Kildare v Down will go? This is a mad division in fairness and all the teams seem capable of brain farts on their day.
What is the feeling within Down?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 07, 2017, 01:10:12 PM
I wonder what happened to Sean Brady's friend
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Unlaoised on March 07, 2017, 01:17:00 PM
Great win for Meath always like to see the Royals do well hope they stay up!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 07, 2017, 02:19:32 PM
I think it's safe to say we are every true GAA fan's 'second' team.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 07, 2017, 06:18:47 PM
I think it's safe to say we are every true GAA fan's 'second' team.
Particularly in 1895, 1939, 1951, 1952, 1966, 1970, 1990, 1991 and 2001
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 06:27:00 AM
And we are back from the Twilight Zone.

Kildare just need one point to be promoted. If only we had some natural footballers....
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 20, 2017, 06:51:05 AM
And we are back from the Twilight Zone.

Kildare just need one point to be promoted. If only we had some natural footballers....

Are we going to enter the transfer market again?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 20, 2017, 09:09:24 AM
I was following the odds on Paddy Power. Interesting.

Cork and Meath have not met expectations.

            30.1    25.2    5.3   12.3   19.3

Cork        7/4   7/4   5/6   7/2   7/1   
Galway     3/1   4/5   4/11   4/7   2/9
Meath    11/2   5/2   8/1   11/4   9/2
Kildare    6/1   4/9   4/6   2/5   1/6
Derry    15/2   9/1   5/1   9/1   -
Down    12/1   25/1   16/1   11/2   33/1
Ferm.   14/1   5/1   10/1   25/1   20/1
Clare    20/1   9/2   10/1   11/4   7/1
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 20, 2017, 09:23:28 AM
Next instalment in 6 days

I think Derry could beat Cork. Meath v Fermanagh will also be a tough match. Fermanagh need 2 points

Sunday 26 March

Allianz FL Division 2 round 6
Derry v Cork, Celtic Park, 3pm
Meath v Fermanagh, Pairc Tailteann, 3pm
Down v Galway, Pairc Esler, 3pm
Kildare v Clare, Newbridge, 3.15pmSunday
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: FermGael on March 20, 2017, 10:53:33 AM
Honestly believe that the league now shows exactly how a tiered championship should work.  Games are very hard to predict
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: seafoid on March 20, 2017, 02:53:08 PM
I really hope Galway can do it because it looks like Louth are going to be promoted from D3
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 20, 2017, 03:06:00 PM
Its a shame Meath scored that late point, without it Galway would have needed to only 1 of their 2 remaining games.

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: mouview on March 20, 2017, 03:12:32 PM
I really hope Galway can do it because it looks like Louth are going to be promoted from D3

I assure you Seaf, a repeat performance from yesterday from the Galway defence in the remaining 2 games will ensure we will stay in Division 2 next season. Absolutely no exaggeration to say the FB line yesterday was the worst I've ever seen play for the county; simply eviscerated. In turn got no protection from the HB line, all of whom were too busy dashing upfield trying to link up with the attack and get their names on the scoresheet rather than do their main function of defending. KW is blessed that the Derry defence was as porous as our own and that we have some attackers of a decent standard, (led by the increasingly-impressive Michael Daly, Galway's most accomplished player on view.) How management didn't see fit to make one change in defence until about 10 minutes from time is beyond belief.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 20, 2017, 03:40:17 PM
We don't really want to be in Division 1 next year so we'll probably let Galway go up instead.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 20, 2017, 04:02:28 PM
I really hope Galway can do it because it looks like Louth are going to be promoted from D3
The wise money would be on Armagh and Tipperary instead of Louth.

According to the odds division 2 in 2018 will be.

Armagh
Tipperary
Roscommon
Cavan
Meath
Fermanagh
Clare
Cork

Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 20, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
We don't really want to be in Division 1 next year so we'll probably let Galway go up instead.
We are doing our best to stay down also as that is the only reason I can give for our defensive "performance" yesterday - it was atrocious and comical at times, usually all in the same passage of play.  One would normally expect a few changes for the Down game, but as we didn't see fit to make any defensive changes until the last 10 mins yesterday, its hard to know what to expect!!!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 20, 2017, 04:54:27 PM
I really hope Galway can do it because it looks like Louth are going to be promoted from D3

I assure you Seaf, a repeat performance from yesterday from the Galway defence in the remaining 2 games will ensure we will stay in Division 2 next season. Absolutely no exaggeration to say the FB line yesterday was the worst I've ever seen play for the county; simply eviscerated. In turn got no protection from the HB line, all of whom were too busy dashing upfield trying to link up with the attack and get their names on the scoresheet rather than do their main function of defending. KW is blessed that the Derry defence was as porous as our own and that we have some attackers of a decent standard, (led by the increasingly-impressive Michael Daly, Galway's most accomplished player on view.) How management didn't see fit to make one change in defence until about 10 minutes from time is beyond belief.

Agreed, backs were atrocious yesterday, for all his faults Kyne was missed yesterday, Lavelle had to make a number of saves yesterday that should never have gotten that far, no tackle came from anywhere. Our half back line are too similar, th first instinct for all 3 of them when they get the ball is run as far as I can with it, Gary O'Donnell was up in the corner forward position about 4 times yesterday, same with Bradshaw and Heaney, there's 6 forwards there, all able to score, these lads should be told do their primary job and stay back and defend. Even though I don't know are they able for that! They should win against Down but you never know with these bucks, u-21s are playing Saturday so you'd think Michael Daly probably won't be playing but I wouldn't be surprised if he was asked to play 2 days in a row. He's turning into a real focal point in the attack, himself and Damien Comer (when he's back from injury) in the forwards could do serious damage if they get fast, quick ball. Shane Walsh was a joy to watch yesterday when he got going, the way he can pass a ball and read the play is fantastic. A bit of consistency would be nice though, Eamon Brannigan had a great second half. Barry McHugh will be lucky to hold onto his place I think, he offers very little from open play and didn't have a good day on the frees yesterday, missed the penalty also.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: LilySavage on March 20, 2017, 05:14:06 PM
Don't see Louth going up either.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 20, 2017, 08:29:26 PM
We don't have the robo-legs for division 1 anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Hardy on March 20, 2017, 08:47:19 PM
I was in Páirc Uí Rinn yesterday. If I ever figure out what I saw I'll tell you about it.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 20, 2017, 08:51:10 PM
Issues in the full back line are not exactly a new phenomenon for us.
It's been our weakest line for a long time.
They did quite well in the Connacht championship last year to be fair but were taken to the cleaners in Croker.
You just couldnt trust that defence.Okay some weeks - disastrous the next!
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 20, 2017, 09:25:10 PM
Cathal Sweeney was very rusty, he's going to need serious game time if he's to recapture the form of 2 years ago. I wonder is there an eye being kept on the u-21s, Dylan McHugh from Corofin was impressive against Leitrim the last day out, he spent most of the day at centre back and didn't do much wrong, stuck to his position mostly too.  Big step up to senior I know but could be worth a look. Sean Andy Kelly was solid enough too, he played at full back.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 20, 2017, 09:40:52 PM
I was in Páirc Uí Rinn yesterday. If I ever figure out what I saw I'll tell you about it.

Hope you gave the natives plenty of it.
If any of them were at the game.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Hardy on March 20, 2017, 10:52:51 PM
One of the few categorical judgments I can make is that there was (surprisingly, to me) a very  large Meath contingent in attendance. Not far off matching the locals in decibels.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 21, 2017, 09:55:22 PM
Galway posters - any update on the foot injury for Damien Comer? Is there any chance he will be back for either of the last two games or is he gone for the rest of the league?
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: galwayman on March 21, 2017, 10:23:24 PM
Galway posters - any update on the foot injury for Damien Comer? Is there any chance he will be back for either of the last two games or is he gone for the rest of the league?
I was told at the time by somebody involved with the squad that he was out for the rest of the league.
Not sure if that position has changed or not in the meantime.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Duine Eile on March 21, 2017, 11:36:13 PM
About another 2 weeks I heard which would mean missing the last 2 games which is a real pity, he still had the crutches at the weekend anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: thejuice on March 22, 2017, 06:52:11 AM
I'm not sure the comebacks against Galway or Cork would have happened under Mick O'Dowd so there is a slight improvement in attitude and will to win. There is still a lot to improve on but it's going in the right direction for now. With Mickey Newman still to come back we might have a more formidable attack but for now Donal Lenihan seems really up to the task which we only got glimpses of before. Bryan McMahon has similar potential too if he can find a way to bring it up a level.
Title: Re: NFL Divsion 2 2017
Post by: Jinxy on March 22, 2017, 11:42:53 AM
I suppose we've become known for 2nd half collapses in recent years.
We must be doing something right if we're building up big leads, but we just don't have the resilience to handle a situation where the tide turns against us.
Most of the time all it takes is someone taking the responsibility to kick a point to stop the rot and break the opposition's momentum.
If Andy does nothing else but put a bit of steel into the lads it will be great progress.