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Doc challenge was much more deliberate than coc and for me that makes it the least acceptable of the two. Coc didnít raise his arm above the horizontal, to me he didnít go out of his way to strike the head of the corner-back. Itís an off the ball challenge and a red but not worth the angst that itís causing so many haters.

Doc knew exactly what he was doing though, in his eyes it was payback and despite being the player whoíll get off more likely in was definitely the more vindictive challenge.

Considering DOC more or less carried a Mayo U21 All Ireland it's amazing how he has never pushed on to be a top senior footballer. They just don't seem to be bringing any fresh blood into the team and come the summer it will be the same senior players they are relying on. I'd question the coaching in the county that they can't bring through any decent two footed forwards in years

Did he? not for his scoring anyway

V Leitrim 1-0 (a penalty)
V Roscommon 0-0
V Dublin 1-1
V Cork 1-0

Correct me if Im wrong but didnt he play in midfield for most of the championship?

I think if it was in the Dublin game he made a vital interception in his own goalmouth.

Hard to be racking up big scores if youre making incredible plays 130 yards away down the other end of the field.


He was named player of the U21 Championship for 2016

http://www.eirgridgroup.com/newsroom/u21-player-of-the-year/

He was flat out excellent in every game he played

No he didn't play midfield.

V Leitrim the midfield pairing was Val Roughneen, Stephen Coen
V Roscommon the midfield pairing was  Stephen Coen, Matthew Ruane
V Dublin the midfield pairing was Stephen Coen, Matthew Ruane
V Cork the midfield pairing was again Stephen Coen, Matthew Ruane

Tracking back and defending is more about the game he plays than scoring but some still think he's good consistent scoring forward.

Wouldn't pay much attention to those underage awards that was probably won on public popular vote by many supporters that probably didn't even attend all four games he played. Coen and Ruane had better U21 campaigns than DOC had IMO.

Where .is ruane  now, thought Irwin and reape  would get full league runs

Nah. We did well to get an AI out of those lads. The team was driven by O Connor (who was heroic at times) and Coen' s strength, leadership, good attitude and size was massive as well. But that was underage stuff and Coen' s strengths at underage do not translate at senior and his weakness is damning. I never imagined that Irwin or Reape would be senior players.
 O Donaghue and Hall were the pick of the quality apart from O Connor. Ruane looked good and raw but no idea how he has come along since.

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Day's like today Mayo are tough going to watch. Always talk about unearthing new players but very difficult for young players to survive, let alone thrive, when we are so dysfunctional in the league. New players in Dublin set-up come into a team that is always well organised and the 'process' is always intact. Last week we started with Douglas and Regan inside. Neither featured last year and yet they were expected to spearhead an attack against a top team. Both are also players that are probably more suited to playing off a bigger target player inside.
 Also I think that it should be obvious at this stage to Mayo management that a couple of the younger players are projects that need to be seriously looked at.
 Galway are going to be a tough nut to crack come championship. This new system suits them.
The Galway Shawl has been replaced by a blanket.

Good post Moy.A friend watching the game said to me we could have Mc Manus Geaney and Mc Brearty as our ff line and we would still struggle.The ball going in is painfully slow and usually shite.The backwards and sideways handpassing is very frustrating to watch.Without Andy as the target man we look very short on ideas going forward.No need to panic just yet but 1 or 2 have shown they are not good enough if we want to be challenging for sam.

Ah, we are in our usual place at this time of the year! We had a weak enough team out there today. Going into the final quarter, Roachford seemed more intent in giving lads game time than looking for inspirational players to come off the bench and save the game.  I've said this before, I don't really care about relegation. I'd rather if we did not. but if we did it would not be the end of the world. I'm more interested in us being ready for the summer, and that does not even mean the Connacht Championship!

I agree with that in the main Bunker. But I would have a few concerns. We dodged bullets last year until we cut loose v Ros in second game in August. We wont get away with that again.
Look at what we are at. Trying to develop new players; but what chance do new players have coming into a Mayo league team? Dublin have Fenton and McAuley there. A good few of McCarty, Cooper, Fitzsimmons, McMahon, O Sullivan will be on the pitch. Kilkenny will be playing quarterback. We re putting out teams where the most senior midfielder wasn't in championship panel last year. Most of the starting backs are out too. I know we'll end up with roughly the same team come championship, and fine enough with that. Anybody that emerges out of the mist will do so in training because these league games look like a chore - even the die hard fans must be pissed off at this stage.

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Day's like today Mayo are tough going to watch. Always talk about unearthing new players but very difficult for young players to survive, let alone thrive, when we are so dysfunctional in the league. New players in Dublin set-up come into a team that is always well organised and the 'process' is always intact. Last week we started with Douglas and Regan inside. Neither featured last year and yet they were expected to spearhead an attack against a top team. Both are also players that are probably more suited to playing off a bigger target player inside.
 Also I think that it should be obvious at this stage to Mayo management that a couple of the younger players are projects that need to be seriously looked at.
 Galway are going to be a tough nut to crack come championship. This new system suits them.
The Galway Shawl has been replaced by a blanket.

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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: September 10, 2017, 02:19:07 AM »

How come Holmes and Connelly are not mentioned in this merry-go-round? Surely a top option for Sligo gig.
 
Mayo players were destroyed for lacking confidence in them but we've had one Sligo poster here wanting Sligo players have an input in next managerial appointment.

Holmes and Connelly have a good cv, and surprising they have not been even in the discussion for other counties. Makes no sense.

They were still better than Rochford however much you want to convince yourself they weren't.

Moi? Not trying to convince myself of anything. Just wondering why other counties have not snapped them up. Then there was Tommy Jordan that won a club AI but it all turned sour in Sligo.
 Still, I don't get how you can say that H&C were 'better' than Rochford? Better how?

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland Football Final 2017 Mayo V Dublin
« on: September 10, 2017, 12:58:07 AM »
Fear of rowdyism? :)
Insurance I suspect.

Yeah, who the f**k would insure a Mayo team?

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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: September 10, 2017, 12:55:41 AM »

How come Holmes and Connelly are not mentioned in this merry-go-round? Surely a top option for Sligo gig.
 
Mayo players were destroyed for lacking confidence in them but we've had one Sligo poster here wanting Sligo players have an input in next managerial appointment.

Holmes and Connelly have a good cv, and surprising they have not been even in the discussion for other counties. Makes no sense.

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland Football Final 2017 Mayo V Dublin
« on: September 10, 2017, 12:33:21 AM »
Seen as the thing in cbar mall got cancelled i think they should show the game in mchale park
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What happened?

Logistics apparently. Its no bloody wonder castlebar is a town in.decline.  its such a homely provincial town , its sad to see it lagging behind .  Even for games now the town is not near as lively as it used to be .

Hopefully yer man Sam Maguire will rejuvenate the whole town.

Don't get it? What in The Mall was cancelled?

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland Football Final 2017 Mayo V Dublin
« on: September 09, 2017, 11:47:29 PM »
Very low key down here in Mayo! Most resigned in Public to another defeat to Dublin on their home turf! God be with the days of the Hype before a final!

Ah weve had too much hype followed by dissapointment, better for lowkey followed by an almighty surprise

Nah. Hype had nothing got to do with losing those AIs in the past. Similarly, no hype this time will have nothing to do with losing this one.
The last hyped final was 2004 afair.

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland Football Final 2017 Mayo V Dublin
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:14:18 AM »
If Mayo don't win, the best possible result for the sport is Dublin flaking them. It would mean even the most cross-eyed observer couldn't ignore the imbalance Dublin have created if they win an AI by hammering every single team they faced.
Mayo getting hammered will mean they didn't turn up for the final or got their tactics badly wrong. Every observer including the ones cross-eyed will want to see a close competitive All Ireland final.

They might get close and competitive to an extent. For Mayo, the reality is, we've messed up better chances. Including last year. Even though we've put 3 good games together and have been arguably as good as we've been in those games as any since Horan took over. However, there is so much stacked against a Mayo win, you just have to despair. Our kickout strategy and execution is improving but Dublin's is better. Dublin keep possession better and rarely turn over  - teams are still guaranteed easy scores from our errors in possession. Likes of Fenton and Kilkenny can slow down and dictate things when needed - we can't. That's before you look at cavalry off the bench. There is a 5-10 point swing there.
 I was optimistic about Kerry (not confident) and gave us a 50/50 chance  - all going well. which it didn't but we got there. I'm only hopeful here. Maybe 20/80 or even 10/90. 

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland Football Final 2017 Mayo V Dublin
« on: September 04, 2017, 01:21:27 AM »
Gawd ye talk some shit and why is it everyone around croke park today talks different to ye. Do ye go , do ye represent anyone ? Utter shit talk in here, nobody thinks like ye, I discussed dividing the hill for the football final with several people today and all were agreed .

Sure it will be divided Larry. The game is won and lost on the pitch though. Remember McDanger kicked that point in 2006 to win into an exclusive Dub hill. Opposition - if they are good enough - can take energy from an atmosphere like that as well. A quietened hill might suck energy from Dubs as well. Dublin in a semi is a much rawer experience than a final when the hill is divided. But it has to be divided for a final for equality.
 If anything I have a problem with the ticket allocation, where tickets are distributed nationwide and clubs use them for fundraising by selling lines and raffling them off. Croke Park have no problem with this apparently - even though it is a form of touting imo - because clubs need funds that headquarters don't want to know about.
 There was about 40,000 Mayo fans at semi replay and the same for first game. Big numbers in Ennis, Limerick and in CP for Roscommon as well. A lot of these fans haven't a hope of getting a final ticket.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Roddy Doyle says the GAA is a bit of a con
« on: September 04, 2017, 12:53:17 AM »
If that was all it was Jinxy you wold be correct but it wasn't just that. He said people only watch a GAA while there's no soccer on and it was a con job. I think that deserves to be challenged as it's clearly rubbish. If he just said he wasn't a fan then fair enough.
But that is the case with a lot of people.

And so fooking what?

No it's not. I've lived in a few different counties and I can't recall anyone who watched GAA as a stop gap until the soccer returned. Some were bigger soccer fans than GAA fans but none just watched GAA because   there was no soccer.

It is what it is. There are those that enjoy many sports but have a leaning towards one. I'd be like that with a lean to Gaelic Football. Other people are more insular.
 A friend of mine lived in Cork City a while and played with a local soccer team. The club organised a friendly the afternoon of the '89 AI final, such was their hatred of Gaelic football.
 I also know Mayo lads (mature adults) who would rather Liverpool beat Burnley or Manchester United beat Everton in 2 weeks time than Mayo win the AI.

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland Football Final 2017 Mayo V Dublin
« on: September 04, 2017, 12:02:36 AM »

There's no doubt that the Hill is a much more intimidating place in a semi when it is practically all Dublin - like 2006 was unreal.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2017 All Stars
« on: September 01, 2017, 12:52:51 AM »

He shouldn't be. Kerry will get Geaney and Murphy maybe still has a shout. Cases can be made for Harte and Cavanagh, but the system failure of Tyrone v Dublin leaves them a bit high and dry. Realistically, everything that happened before the semis is dodgy form. Donegal's implosion in particular puts a lot of things in perspective. Tyrone can hardy expect to get All-Star out of winning Ulster this year. If anything Connacht was more difficult and Roscommon wont be putting hands up for any.

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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: September 01, 2017, 12:34:46 AM »
Will be a disaster for Donegal going with Banty. Brings a team of mercenaries with have and is hardly likely to have the future of Donegal football in his heart! Young lads that need nurturing /coaching for 2/3 years.

He expressed interest in the gig but he'll hardly get it?! He's just sniffin a few bob. He's the last type of spoofer Donegal need right now.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2017 All Stars
« on: August 30, 2017, 09:27:00 PM »
hard to see Cluxton  getting one , he has had feck all to do all year
but if Dublin win he probably will

I think the hammerings in the Quaterfinal have lessened the chances  any wild card except maybe at full back where none of the top 4 were outstanding probably a corner back will get it

hes well up in the poty odds

I got him at 250-1 for poty preseason

If Dublin win very likely to get poty.

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