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Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« Reply #56985 on: March 20, 2017, 01:27:07 PM »
Outside of winning All Ireland managers, and that's the wishful stuff, but being realistic for me it would be people who have proven themselves at winning senior club championships, or people who have had experience of managing or coaching at inter count level. Probably a mixture of both. How about a Tony Mc Entee with the likes of Mc Erlain or Cassidy or both, names off the top of my head to support my arguement. But get my drift. And that's just to get the ship steadied first.


Definitely not Cassidy,  Rawhide. He's had two turns at and he was a disaster both times. Him and Coleman lost us an all Ireland in 2002 and then they walked out the following year. Great group of players about that time. Then the less we talk about his second coming the better.

It was 2001, not 2002 and I wouldnt attribute the blame to management either

Personally what I thought cost us that day was ciaran McNally getting injured and having to move Paul mcflynn back from half forward to half back. We were well on control that day and lost our shape after that.

In relation to the second coming, at the time I was off the opinion that what he was doing as right but player power put an end to his plans

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« Reply #56986 on: March 20, 2017, 09:20:35 PM »
The reality is that no manager has been "good enough" for the last 10 years. We have to get players to want to play for the County and restore pride.  Division 3 might give us that chance but it will probably take a high-profile, and outside of the county, manager to kick start the pride.  Honestly don't see any other way forward at present. 

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« Reply #56987 on: March 20, 2017, 11:05:47 PM »
The reality is that no manager has been "good enough" for the last 10 years. We have to get players to want to play for the County and restore pride.  Division 3 might give us that chance but it will probably take a high-profile, and outside of the county, manager to kick start the pride.  Honestly don't see any other way forward at present.

I hope your use of speech marks indicates player opinion, for what it's worth. Player power is an increasingly powerful weapon in sport: the arrival of an outside manager will be hailed by many on this board as the way forward even before he has taken his first session or picked his first team. He will arrive at Owenbeg on a donkey (or a Stallion). Crowds of people will spread their coats on the ground in front of Him. Some will wave branches of palm trees, a sign of victory. The people will shout:

Hosanna!
Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Oakleaf
the King of Derry

And within a short time, when he has made unreasonable demands of players (this is the way I want you to play), when he has not chosen a friend or a relative or a club mate as one of the 15 disciples, people will begin to turn against him. They will argue that he was brought in to perform miracles and, if he does not, they will call for his removal (he gets to live in this case).

And so the search will begin again for a new messiah!

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« Reply #56988 on: March 20, 2017, 11:19:59 PM »
A response of Biblical proportions!  Enjoyed the humour of it, especially as I am an atheist myself. However your scenario is a bit like the bible, outdated.

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« Reply #56989 on: March 21, 2017, 12:06:07 AM »
Only the Free P version

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« Reply #56990 on: March 21, 2017, 02:50:38 PM »
The reality is that no manager has been "good enough" for the last 10 years. We have to get players to want to play for the County and restore pride.  Division 3 might give us that chance but it will probably take a high-profile, and outside of the county, manager to kick start the pride.  Honestly don't see any other way forward at present.

I hope your use of speech marks indicates player opinion, for what it's worth. Player power is an increasingly powerful weapon in sport: the arrival of an outside manager will be hailed by many on this board as the way forward even before he has taken his first session or picked his first team. He will arrive at Owenbeg on a donkey (or a Stallion). Crowds of people will spread their coats on the ground in front of Him. Some will wave branches of palm trees, a sign of victory. The people will shout:

Hosanna!
Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Oakleaf
the King of Derry

And within a short time, when he has made unreasonable demands of players (this is the way I want you to play), when he has not chosen a friend or a relative or a club mate as one of the 15 disciples, people will begin to turn against him. They will argue that he was brought in to perform miracles and, if he does not, they will call for his removal (he gets to live in this case).

And so the search will begin again for a new messiah!
Jesus wept

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« Reply #56991 on: March 21, 2017, 04:29:34 PM »
 ;)  ;D

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« Reply #56992 on: March 22, 2017, 02:42:36 PM »
I see Jarlath is proposing a couple of rule changes for Gaelic Football to slow the game down a little and move players 7 metres further outfield. I would like to propose another change to replace the black card and to limit systematic fouling.
Three yellow cards is the maximum any team can accrue in a game. Each subsequent yellow is punished with a penalty kick to the opposition. Punishments for individuals who receive two yellows or a red remain the same.

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« Reply #56993 on: March 22, 2017, 03:24:38 PM »
I see Jarlath is proposing a couple of rule changes for Gaelic Football to slow the game down a little and move players 7 metres further outfield. I would like to propose another change to replace the black card and to limit systematic fouling.
Three yellow cards is the maximum any team can accrue in a game. Each subsequent yellow is punished with a penalty kick to the opposition. Punishments for individuals who receive two yellows or a red remain the same.
Absolutely Millsy, and we should implement these new proposals shortly after the first batch of referees graduate from their 6 year degree course in interpreting hard to follow rules  ;D

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« Reply #56994 on: March 22, 2017, 05:11:10 PM »
Jarleth is a good fella but common sense is not one of his strong points. The "mark" was his baby and is a total waste of time. When you hear anything from him, factor in his drive for GAA President!

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« Reply #56995 on: March 22, 2017, 06:30:25 PM »
The yellow card is easy to run. On issuing the 3rd card, the ref reminds the management the limit has been reached. It's up to the latter to inform players. After that, we all wait for the first of thr five penalties that ensue.
On a different note, I think it's time we assigned specialist coaches to different roles. Why should we only have a goalkeeping coach? We need a free taking coach, a defensive play coach and an attacking play coach. At the minute most contractors (county boards) employ bricklayers (S&C men), plasterers (physios), plumbers (goalkeeping coaches) and roofers (analysts) but leave the electrical work (defensive coaching), joinery (attacking coaching) and tiling (free taking coaching) to a small group of handymen.

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« Reply #56996 on: March 22, 2017, 08:42:52 PM »
Jesus wept.

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« Reply #56997 on: March 22, 2017, 11:58:14 PM »
Is Jesus preparing for Sunday and a final nail?!

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« Reply #56998 on: March 23, 2017, 01:02:11 AM »
Any news of those names Stallion?

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« Reply #56999 on: March 24, 2017, 11:48:21 AM »
The yellow card is easy to run. On issuing the 3rd card, the ref reminds the management the limit has been reached. It's up to the latter to inform players. After that, we all wait for the first of thr five penalties that ensue.
On a different note, I think it's time we assigned specialist coaches to different roles. Why should we only have a goalkeeping coach? We need a free taking coach, a defensive play coach and an attacking play coach. At the minute most contractors (county boards) employ bricklayers (S&C men), plasterers (physios), plumbers (goalkeeping coaches) and roofers (analysts) but leave the electrical work (defensive coaching), joinery (attacking coaching) and tiling (free taking coaching) to a small group of handymen.
Can't believe you would be as careless as to leave a penalty kick coach off your backroom team, especially now that there will be a minimum of 5 per game. Quite remiss of you. A job with the English FA surely awaits.
Hope you're not waiting too hard on Stallion to provide you with any sort of genuine constructive answer to your question.