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GAA Discussion / Re: Benny Flynn
« on: May 25, 2017, 11:00:26 PM »
Do Tyrone fans criticise  Cavanagh?

Do Kerry people criticise Donaghy?

Do Dubs Criticise Philly?

Do Donegal people criticise Magee?

Do you get the general idea now?

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: May 24, 2017, 02:51:38 PM »
Ye sure?  :o


Yes! But don't worry. Whether Spillane gives that Tyrone team credit or not for their achievement(s) really does not matter. What matters is that the engravings for '03, '05 and '08 acknowledge this and nothing can take that away.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Benny Flynn
« on: May 24, 2017, 11:53:57 AM »

 Michael Murphy did a TV programme too - why does he not get picked on? Errrrr - because he has won the All-Ireland, never lets Donegal down, won things with his club and is a much, much, much better footballer Cliona!!!!

So just to be clear, you're saying the tv programme isn't the issue?

I'd love to know whos fault it was Mayo weren't winning AI's before Aidan O'Shea came along.

That retort to Horan is absolutely  pathetic from Flynn btw.

Off the top of my head ,Ciaran McDonald, David Brady (A Sligo man stolen even though born and bred in Mayo), Connor Mortimer, Liam McHale, J.P. Keane and Seamí O' Dowd and maybe at a stretch Jinkin' Joe Corcoran!!

Add to that Dermott Flanaghan for starting, Pat Fallon for not being able to start, Pat Holmes for not marking Maurice Fitzgerald, O'Nell and Cahill for breaking their legs in 1997, Madden for letting the ball bounce in front of him.



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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: May 24, 2017, 11:40:52 AM »
He is not acknowledging Tyrone, he is getting his excuses for Kerry in early. He knows what is coming down the line.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Benny Flynn
« on: May 24, 2017, 11:31:07 AM »
Firstly, Bernard Flynn is the wannabe Robbie Savage of the GAA. He regularly espouses opinions which are reasonable to hold in as controversial or inflammatory terms as he can muster so that it gets noticed and will get clicked on social media. That he chose this phraseology to regurgitate an opinion that others were expressing before him shouldn't surprise anyone.

Personally, I happen to think that the black and white opinion served up about AOS just doesn't stack up. Is having a low profile and the appearance of no personality a prerequisite for success in any other sporting realm? Is it actually accurate that AOS fails to perform in every big game for Mayo? Without thinking too hard, he was excellent against Tyrone in Croke Park last year in a battle of attrition before which the majority of learned people told us that Tyrone would finish this Mayo teams All Ireland ambitions for good.

Leaving that aside for a minute, are people seriously saying that only people with an All Ireland medal should have a profile or engage with the general public. That is such a backward, ill informed and illogical opinion to hold that I don't know where to start to debunk it.

We need characters and personalities in the games and we need to bring them to the masses in more innovative and interactive ways to keep our games at least on the coat tails of competing sports for the next generation. Their heads, devices and school yard activities are full of soccer, US basketball, NFL and rugby players through consistent promotional offensives but we recoil at the thoughts of the best players in the game joining kids for selfies and taking part in TV programs which the kids might actually watch? Nonsense for me and completely unrelated to onfield performance.

That's it all in one! You win an All Ireland you can do what ever you want and it won't be questioned. Brendan Maher and Aidan O'Shea did the toughest trade recently. Nobody in the media questioned Brendan Maher doing the show.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Media targetting of amateur players
« on: May 23, 2017, 07:18:19 PM »
JOHN FOGARTY: Obsession with Mayo is now a sickness




By John Fogarty
GAA Correspondent


Slamming Mayo is now fashionable and the more outrageous the statement, the better, writes John Fogarty

The Mayo players stand to attention for the national anthem on Sunday. Mayo are an easy target for criticism. Picture: Inpho/James Crombie
Fergus Connolly has a book coming out later this year. That’s best to keep in mind when considering the sports science and performance consultant’s claim in a Sunday Independent interview Mayo will not win an All-Ireland in his lifetime. When he lambasted Aidan O’Shea for appearing on a TV show because he has yet to win an All-Ireland medal. When he argued a media ban would be the first step to helping Mayo to their elusive goal.

Connolly might argue he would maintain such convictions regardless of his forthcoming publication but then he knows how marketing works too and that Mayo are the easiest of lays. In that regard, he could have been more original but there is an understandable inclination to be in the spotlight as he has something to sell.

A few months prior to Tomás Ó Sé’s autobiography two years ago, the former Kerry star levelled Cork, describing them as ‘underachievers’ and ‘untrustworthy’. He might live in Cork but the notoriety cultivated from those comments did his sales little harm.

In a way, such behaviour reminds us of how a GAA president, keen to make a bigger impression with a year to go in office, makes a declaration. In 2011, Christy Cooney flew the kite of the provincial boundaries being redrawn. In November last year, Aogán Farrell said the GAA may in the future need to reconsider the use of the tricolour and the national anthem. Cooney made his remarks in a Congress address but never followed them up. Farrell was answering a question about the meaning of the tricolour and national anthem to non-Irish playing Gaelic games abroad but brought his answer around to the island of Ireland (yet later sought to clarify his comments).

Put simply, each wanted to make headlines.

There was nothing different in what Bernard Flynn’s “I’m going to share it — I wasn’t going to but I’m going to do it” denigration of O’Shea following his appearance in Mayo’s recent challenge game against Meath in Mullingar. The former Meath forward was simply trying to reassert his relevancy. Condemning O’Shea for agreeing to pose for photographs and sign autographs while his team warmed down was indeed as, Flynn initially said on the RTÉ podcast, “a small thing” but he couldn’t help himself making it big.

Flynn mentioned he helped organise the challenge game, which took place in his club Mullingar Shamrocks’ Springfield pitch. What he neglected to point out was O’Shea was born in Mullingar. His father Jim was a former chairman of the club and was on the Shamrocks team that won two Westmeath senior county championships.

The O’Shea family’s connection with the club was not lost on the player and club officials have confirmed to us that his and his team-mates’ patience and cooperation with the children was the subject of much positive comment that evening.

Neither did Flynn care to divulge the game was broken up in two 45-minute periods and O’Shea had played the entirety of the first one after which he had joined a team huddle. He appeared in the second period but only for a short time.

It wasn’t a surprise that Stephen Rochford took exception to Flynn’s comments following Sunday’s game. He has a duty of care to his players and protecting their characters should be high on his list of priorities.

In 2011, Jim McGuinness felt compelled to defend his charges in the wake of Pat Spillane “running down” his team after their win over Donegal. A spotlight should be shone Mayo’s way but at times it seems it’s being done to blind them into crashing again. Mayo have far more reason to be aggrieved with how they are being portrayed than Donegal were. It will be said that they have brought a lot of it upon themselves but much of it is now so tenuous it’s laughable.

Connolly is about 40. All things going well, he has at least another 40 of them left. The arguments he sets out for why Mayo won’t win an All-Ireland in his lifetime are all short-term explanations. But that doesn’t matter. What matters is that slamming Mayo is fashionable and the more outrageous the statement the better.

Connolly criticises O’Shea for doing media work when off O’Shea’s back he is doing the very same thing to promote himself. Flynn rebukes O’Shea for being courteous to the kids of his own club to keep himself in the limelight. That’s more cynical than Kieran Hughes’ black card foul in Clones on Saturday. The actions of the pair are symptomatic of the obsession with Mayo. Just as there is a fixation with success, there is with near-success or failure, term it however you wish.

The slightest shortcoming is magnified to be something it isn’t, the merest mistake amplified to ridiculous proportions. Because other than not being good enough on the day, which probably should satisfy us, we can’t work Mayo out.

But the words of Connolly and Flynn, following on from others, illustrate that the obsession with Mayo has grown unhealthy. With preposterous declarations and character assassinations, people are making fame off their shame. That says more about those casting aspersions on Mayo than what they think about them.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Galway v Mayo 11/06/17
« on: May 22, 2017, 11:34:43 PM »
Galway have been making steady progress for the last few years and should do better this year than last year.  The team is based on the 2 most recent all Ireland u21 teams. There wasn't really any core of experienced players to blend with them in 2013-15 , hence the Mayo hammerings . And of course Mayo didn't win Sam despite all the huffing and puffing. So it's 2 teams with different dynamics.
Mayo will hand over the baton soon enough. 

And Galway might win Sam afterwards.

Oh, the dream! Galways first goal - never mind retaining a Connacht title is winning a Championship game in Croke Park. Has any county gone as long without a Championship win there? I'm afraid that if Galway take over the Baton it will be more Mayo falling back to the chasing pack than Galway moving  into the main pack!

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 22, 2017, 07:02:54 PM »
I have a 5 yr old niece who could probably do as well as Klopp. I'm not sure if she has her coaching badges though.

So who is your choice to replace Klopp?
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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 22, 2017, 02:41:25 PM »
Hope you enjoyed your holidays. I trust you are fully refreshed, full of energy, and looking forward to trawling through my posts.

Hi, just had a look through your posts. Took a bit of time. Nobody mentioned! Might you have deleted the post you are talking about? You don't seem very confident in your Replacement when you have me trawling through your posts to find him?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 22, 2017, 12:35:40 PM »
I have already responded to calls for me to name a replacement. Please see my previous responses.

Sorry, must have been on Holidays when you responded. You have a lot of posts for me to go through - just say who you named.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Sligo CSFC 21st May 2017
« on: May 21, 2017, 11:01:00 PM »
Very biased coverage in the highlights! Making Mayo look a lot better than they were. And not doing Sligo justice!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Sligo CSFC 21st May 2017
« on: May 21, 2017, 10:51:00 PM »
I always have to laugh at the Mayo supporters.

The amount of times Sligo would get a pretty obvious free and it would be followed by a massive chorus of boos at the decision.

You wouldn't mind but it was Sligo in the first round of the Connacht Championship, surely they shouldn't need the ref to be doing their bidding at this stage of the Championship. It's that kind of outlook which I think explains why they have came up that bit short over the years.

Wouldn't read too much into how abject Mayo were today as they'll be aiming for early August but the age profile of the squad must be a bit worrying. 6 of the team that started today are now in their 30s and are probably past their best, there's a lot of mileage there now and they really need some fresh blood to come in and start contributing in a big way.


A lot of the booing is from kids. Who have little notion of what is going on. If this puts off the players or Referee, then they are in the wrong place!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Sligo CSFC 21st May 2017
« on: May 21, 2017, 10:34:39 PM »
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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 21, 2017, 10:29:48 PM »
A huge personal achievement for klopp given how poor that squad is. It's arguably as poor a sqaud as Everton's. Only countinho, matip, Henderson and mane would make the squads of the teams below us. Need to shore it up now with a top centre back and striker and a new keeper would be nice but unlikely.

Mane, winaldjum and matip have been good signings. Mane in particular was a steal.


You don't think Lallana, Firmino, Sturridge and a few more would make the squads of teams below Liverpool?

When you're not busy fabricating nonsense about me mocking the Hillsborough tragedy you reveal a stunning lack of judgement regarding the ability of footballers.

Have you come up with a reputable replacement Manager for Klopp? I'm still waiting.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Sligo CSFC 21st May 2017
« on: May 21, 2017, 09:06:19 PM »
It's the middle of May. Mayo did the needful. They can do a lot more.
;D

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